Posts for 'trapped under ice'

ive heard trapped under ice yes

Posted by TheCreepingDeath on 10/03/04 @ 06:40 PM Post subject: Re: fave opening

Good call with "No Remorse".

Also:

Trapped Under Ice
Blackened
Fixxxer

Posted by KingSomething on 12/03/04 @ 04:38 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

1. escape
2. orion
3. struggle within
4. to live is to die
5. trapped under ice
6. leper messiah
-------------------------
7. sanitarium

Short but sweet...

creeping death
so what
am i evil? yes I am
last caress
master of puppets
dyers eve
trapped under ice
of wolf and a man
seek and destroy
four horsemen
so many!!!
etc...

1. Damage inc.
2. Creeping Death
3. Sad but true
4. Master of Puppets
5. For Whom the bell tolls
6. One
7. Fade to Black
8. The Unforgiven
9. Blackened
10. Trapped under ice

Blackened
Disposable Heroes
No Remorse
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
2 x 4
Creeping Death
Frantic
St.Anger
Fuel
The Unforgiven
Master Of Puppets
Nothing Else Matters
---------------------
Trapped Under Ice
Fade To Black
One
Enter Sandman
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The Frayed Ends Of Sanity
Fixxxer
---------------------
Metal Militia

Fastest Tallica Setlist:

Fight Fire With Fire
Disposable Heroes
Trapped Under Ice
Damage Inc.
Blackened
Prince Charming
Metal Militia
Fuel
Holier Than Thou
The Struggle Within
Last Caress/Green Hell
Killing Time
The Prince
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Battery
Stone Cold Crazy
Dirty Window
-------------
Dyers Eve
Whiplash

Posted by DamageInc on 02/07/05 @ 06:48 PM Post subject: Re: Top 10 songs?

1. Fade to black
2. Creeping Death
3. For Whom the bell tolls
4. The frayers end of sanity
5. Enter Sandman
6. One
7. Dyers eve
8. The Unforgiven
9. Blackened
10. Trapped under ice

Ecstacy Of Gold
Blackened
So what
Creeping death
for whom the bell tolls
Harvester of sorrow
One
fuel
Aint my bitch
Until it sleeps
Frantic
the memory remains
Leper messiah
the four horsemen
Master of puppets
sad but true
The unforgiven
------------------
Nothing else matters
Trapped under ice
Hit the lights
Motorbreath
-------------------
Fade to black
Metal militia
Seek & destroy
Battery

Martin, you gotta get out of this thread.

I'm making a pure speed metal playlist heregoes:

Last Caress
Am I Evil
Holier Than Thou
Whiplash
Through The Never
Shortest Straw
The 4 Horsemen
Leper Messiah
Disposable Heroes
Fight Fire With Fire
Blackened
Trapped Under Ice
Master Of Puppets
Creeping Death
Battery
Dyers Eve
Metal Fucking Militia

Posted by badseed on 01/01/05 @ 01:43 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Preety Fast One
1.Hit The Lights
2.Frantic
3.Creeping Death
4.Harvester Of Sorrow
5.Through The Never
6.St Anger
7.Metal Militia
8.Trapped Under Ice
9.Dirty Window
---------------------------
10.Battery
11.Dyers Eve
12.Master Of Puppets
13.Damage Inc
---------------------------
14.Blackend
15.Whiplash
---------------------------
16.Seek And Destroy
17.All Within My Hands

This one is a pretty heavy one.

Battery
The 4 Horsemen
Ride The Lightning
Trapped Under Ice
Disposable Heroes
Blitzkrieg
Phantom Lord
Jump In The Fire
------------------------------------------------------------
Leper Messiah
Whiplash
Through The Never
Harvestor Of Sorrow
Of Wolf And Man
The Shortest Straw
Holier Than Thou
Creeping Death
Master Of Puppets
Am I Evil?
Seek And Destroy
------------------------------------------------------------
The Wait
Dyers Eve

Posted by Metaltrooper on 12/03/04 @ 04:52 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Fight fire with fire
Creeping Death
Holier than thou
The four horsemen
Astronomy
Struggle within
Sweet Amber
Junglessence
Fade to Black
Orion
Master of Puppets
My Friend of Misery with jason on bass
For whom the bell tolls
One
Shortest straw
Disposable Heroes
Hit the Lights
Trapped Under Ice
Leper Messiah
Seek and Destroy with jason on vocals
Dyers Eve
To live is to Die

Posted by TheCreepingDeath on 11/22/04 @ 08:50 PM Post subject: Re: best 4th

Umm I guess I'll rank the ones you wrote. Even though they aren't 4th's:

1. Disposable Heroes
2. Leper Messiah
3. Trapped Under Ice
4. Whiplash
5. To Live Is To Die
6. Unforgiven 2
7. Escape
8. Seek And Destroy

my honest opinion, don't get all bitchy because I put Escape above Seek..

Posted by drumsteen on 10/19/04 @ 02:16 AM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

blackened
ride the lightning
hit the lights
phantom lord
metal militia
motor breath
creeping death fade to black
fight fire with fire
dyers eve
shortest straw
one
battery
disposable heroes
damage inc
orion
st anger
franticmy friend of mysery
blitzkrieg
the wait
helpless
the prince
the four horsemen
master of puppets
trapped under ice

OHHHHHHHHHH FUCK IT I WANT THEM TO PLAY EVERYHTING, THEIR SO DAMN GOOD!!!

Metallica songs that make me smile...lets see

Leper Messiah
Seek and Destroy
The Four Horsemen
No Remorse
Ride the Lightning
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Trapped Under Ice
Master of Puppets
Am I Evil?....yes I fuckin' am...

I didn't put all my favorites...just ones that make me smile...

Posted by oneMETALL1CAone on 11/22/04 @ 07:07 PM Post subject: Re: best 4th

this will be tuf.

trapped under ice
leper messiah
disposable heroes
whiplash
unforgiven 2
to live is to die
escape
seek n destroy

haha lol he doesnt know what hes talkin about, but my best fourth would be "one"

Posted by cupidstunt on 12/16/04 @ 06:16 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

1. Hit the lights
2. Ride the lightning
3. ...And justice for all
4. St. anger
5. Welcome home
6. Trapped Under Ice
7. Leper Messiah
9. Sad but true
10. The memory remains
11. Harvester of sorrow
12. The god that failed
13. creeping death
14. battery
-----------------------------------------
15. Junglessence
16. Anesthesia
17. The four horsmen
-----------------------------------------
18. Sabbra Cadabra
19. Whiskey in the jar
-----------------------------------------
20. Seek and Destroy
21. Escape

Posted by dutchy on 12/03/04 @ 09:56 AM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

01. Fight Fire With Fire
02. Master Of Puppets
03. Phantom Lord
04. The Unnamed Feeling
05. Disposable Heroes
06. Leper Messiah
07. Dirty Window
08. The Shortest Straw
09. Ain't My Bitch
10. Sad But True
11. Wasting My Hate
12. Enter Sandman
----------------------------
13. One
14. Nothing Else Matters
15. Creeping Death
16. For Whom The Bell Tolls
17. Battery
---------------------------
18. My World
19. Dyers Eve
20. Trapped Under Ice

Posted by Dave on 10/06/04 @ 03:11 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Ecstacy Of Gold
1.Fight Fire With Fire
2.Master Of Puppets
3.The Memory Remains
4.The Unforgiven
(Bass Doodle)
5.For Whom The Bell Tolls
6.The Four Horsemen
7.Through The Never
8.No Leaf Clover
(Kirk Solo)
9.Nothing Else Matters
10.Creeping Death
11.Battery
-------------------------
12.The Unforgiven II
13.Fuel
14.Disposable Heroes
15.Trapped Under Ice
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16.One
17.Astronomy
18.Blitzkrieg

Posted by tallicablack99 on 11/22/04 @ 10:45 PM Post subject: Re: best 4th

I'll rank the ones he did and my best 4ths:
1. To Live Is To Die
2. Disposable Heroes
3. Unforgiven 2
4. Leper Messiah
5. Trapped Under Ice
6. Escape
(Do not have Kill Em All yet)

Now the best 4ths:
1. One
2. The Unforgiven
3. Sanitarium
4. Fade to Black
5. Until It Sleeps
6. Unforgiven 2
7. Dirty Window

I love 1-6, cant fuckin stand Dirty Window.

Posted by KingSomething on 11/29/04 @ 02:34 PM Post subject: Re: no surprises

I no! has anyone heard to live is to die live? i sure havent. why dont they fucking play it? heres a few old songs they should play:
trapped under ice
to live is to die
disposable heroes
leper messiah
orion
frayed ends of sanity
unforgiven
unforgiven 2
so many others.....

same old same olds:
blackened
one
seek n destroy
puppets
sandman
nothing else matters
battery
some shite from there new album

Posted by DamageInc on 12/06/04 @ 12:35 AM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

1.Ecstasy of gold
2.The frayed ends of sanity
3.Battery
4.Enter Sandman
5.For whom the bellz tolls.
6.Fade to black
7.Leper Messiah
8.Blackened
9.Whiplash
10.Trapped Under ice
11.Holier than thou
12.Damage inc
13.Nothing else matters
14.Am i evil?
15.Hit the lights
16.Disposable heroes
17.Welcome home (Sanitarium)
18.Phantom lord
19.One
20.Junglessence by Mr Rob
21.Master of puppets
22.Sad but true

Posted by badseed on 02/12/05 @ 05:43 AM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

1.Seek & Destroy (could work)
2.Creeping Death
3.Harvester Of Sorrow
4.Sanitarium
5.Some Kind Of Monster
6.Leper Messiah
7.Call Of Kutulu
8.Metal Militia
9.Unforgiven 2
10.Bleeding Me
-----------------------------------
11.Fight Fire With Fire
12.For Whom The Bell Tolls
13.And Justice For All
14.Master Of Puppets
15.One
16.Outlaw Torn
------------------------------------
17.Blackend
18.Breadfan
19.Dyers Eve
20.Trapped Under Ice
21.Whiplash
22.Battery

very unrealistic due to size but ah well

Posted by badseed on 01/24/05 @ 11:49 AM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Hey what happend to the ratings, 10/10 for that last one though, nice.

1.Blackend
2.Master Of Puppets
3.Harvester Of Sorrow
4.Creeping Death
5.Orion
6.Of Wolf And Man
7.Sad But True
8.Sweet Amber
9.Memory Remains
10.Bleeding Me
------------------------
11.Dirty Window
12.Nothing Else Matters
13.Whiplash
14.Die, Die My Darling
15.One
16.No Leaf Clover
17.I Disappear
------------------------
18.Trapped Under Ice
19.Eye Of The Beholder
------------------------
20.Seek & Destroy

1.Ecstasy of gold
2.The frayed ends of sanity
3.Battery
4.Enter Sandman
5.For whom the bellz tolls.
6.Fade to black
7.Fuel
8.Blackened
9.Whiplash
10.Trapped Under ice
11.Holier than thou
12.Damage inc
13.Nothing else matters
14.Am i evil?
15.Hit the lights
16.Disposable heroes
17.Seek n' destroy
18.Phantom lord
19.One
20.Master of puppets
21.Sad but true
It think this could be a great show! ;)

Posted by DamageInc on 02/02/05 @ 10:50 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Creeping death
...And Justice For All
Hit the lights
The Four Horsemen
Ride The Lightning
Enter Sandman
Eye Of The Beholder
Leper Messiah
The Unnamed Feeling
One
Damage Inc
-----------------
Disposable Hero's
Trapped under ice
-Sad but true
-No Remorse
-Phantom lord
-The Unforgiven
-Escape
-Dyers eve
-----------------
Blackened
Don't Tread On Me
Master Of Puppets
-----------------
Battery
Whiplash
Blitzkrieg
Damage inc
----------------
Nothing else matters
Fade To Black (Finish with the one!)

Posted by Met.for.life on 02/15/05 @ 04:12 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Ecstasy of Gold
1. Creeping Death
2. Master of Puppets
3. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
4. Prince Charming PREMIERE
5. Sweet Amber
6. Whiplash
7. Nothing Else Matters
8. Bleeding Me
9. Ride The Lightning
-----------
10. Trapped Under Ice
11. One
12. Seek And Destroy
-----------
13. The Outlaw Torn
14. All Within My Hands PREMIERE
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15. ...And Justice For All
16. To Live is To Die PREMIERE
17. Dyers Eve

OUH FUCKING YEAH!!!!!

Posted by badseed on 02/01/05 @ 04:32 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

thats an 8 due to the positioning of songs! i like it but as i say im not sure about the positioning.

1.Breadfan
2.Fuel
3.Harvester Of Sorrow
4.Sanitarium
5.Frantic
6.Ride The Lightening
7.Wherever I May Roam
8.Outlaw Torn
9.No Leaf Clover
10.Nothing Else Matters
-----------------------------
11.Fught Fire With Fire
12.Disposable Heroes
13.St Anger
14.Creeping Death
15.Enter Sandman
16.Master Of Puppets
17.One
-----------------------------
18.Trapped Under Ice
19.Dyers Eve

1. Satan
2. Blackened
3. Hit The Lights
4. Master Of Puppets
5. Creeping Master
6. So What
7. Trapped Under Ice
8. Sad But True
9. Sucking My Love
10 Fuel For Fire
11. King Nothing
12. Outlaw Torn
13. Devils Dance
14. Bleeding Me
15. Fixxxer
16. The God That Failed
-----------------------
17. One
18. Fade To Black
19. The Four Horsemen
-----------------------
20. The Thing That Should Not Be
21. Whiplash
22. The Memory Remains
-----------------------
23. Sad But True
24. Cat Scratch Fever
25. Sabra Cadabra
26. Blitzkrieg

Posted by Metaltrooper on 10/06/04 @ 01:17 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

1. ...and justice for all
2. fuel
3. king nothing
4. frantic
5. sanitarium
6. escape/trapped under ice (half n' half)
7. st anger
9. harvester of sorrow
10. nothing else matters
11. shortest straw
12. through the never
13. creeping death
14. battery
-----------------------------------------
15. outlaw torn
16. one
17. enter sandman
-----------------------------------------
18. master of puppets
19. astronomy
-----------------------------------------
20. blackened

the last one : blackened? that's at least unusual

Posted by Banger on 01/16/05 @ 02:16 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

This is actually my first time in this thread...lets see my dream setlist:

1.Hit The Lights
2.Fight Fire With Fire
3.Trapped Under Ice
4.Disposable Heroes
5.Shoot Me Again
6.Damage INC
7.Master of Puppets
8.Frayed Ends of Sanity
9.Creeping Death
10.Whiplash
11.Don't Tread on Me
12.Bleeding Me
--------------------
13.Orion
14.Astronomy
15.It's Electric
16.The Thing That Should Not Be
--------------------
17.Unforgiven II
18.For Whom The Bell Tolls
--------------------
19. MERCYFUL FATE MEDLEY!!!!!

;D

ive heard trapped under ice yes

Yep, in Peoria. ;D

Escape, nope. In Ottawa some guy held up an Escape sign, but I doubt Metallica will play it this tour. Maybe one tour in the future, but I hear James doesn't really like the song much. :-/ I don't either...but I could stand it live once.

Posted by badseed on 01/22/05 @ 05:28 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

8/10 i like, alot of old stuff which is always good, maybe a bit too much old stuff, but generally great anyway here i go again:

1.Breadfan
2.Leper Messiah
3.4 Horsemen
4.Creeping Death
5.Fuel
6.Wherever I May Roam
7.Sanitarium
8.Call of Kutulu
9.Turn The Page
10.Harvester Of Sorrow
11.Disposable Hereos
--------------------------
12.Trapped Under Ice
13.Master Of Puppets
14.Enter Sandman
15.For Whom The Bell Tolls
16.One
17.Fixxxer
18.Some Kind Of Monster
---------------------------
19.Hit The Lights
20.Blackend
---------------------------
21.Seek and Destroy

A little unrealistic but oh well.

Posted by drumsteen on 11/03/04 @ 11:19 PM Post subject: Re: how long?!?!?!?

well if they start recording around feb after having a break from touring and shit, id say it should come out about september or november 2005. I guess thats if the album takes about 6 months to record and everything else goes according to plan. Personally I also cant wait for their new live dvd to come out. They better have songs like dyers eve, disposable heroes and trapped under ice on it. Either was its gonna fucking tear a new ass ;D

Posted by KingSomething on 12/01/04 @ 11:54 AM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Yeh, blackened is real original. next your going to say that their NOT going to play sandman. SHOCK!!

heres a real dream.......

1. and justice for all. (please dont scream at something different.)

2. fade to black

3. whiplash

4. orion

5. damage inc.

6. sanitarium

7. to live is to die

8. the unforgiven

9. ride the lightning

10. one

11. seek and destroy

12. master of puppets

13. unforgiven 2

14. nothing else matters

15. escape

16. leper messiah

----------------------------

17. trapped under ice

18. call of ktulu

---------------------------

19. whiskey in the jar

20. jump in the fire

21. dyers eve

blistering set with rare songs and know sandman or battery

Posted by KingSomething on 01/13/05 @ 03:34 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Orion
the four horsemen
Trapped Under Ice
Sanitarium
And Justice For All
Leper Messiah
Fade To Black
Master Of Puppetz

------------------ (Break with free Coca Cola and Crisps)

Blitskreig
Nothing Else Matters
To Live Is To Die
Hit the Lights

-------------------------

Escape
My friend, Misery
One
-------------------------- 20 minute unknown break. an anouncement is told that the gates cannot open for mysterious reasons, and you will have to wait 3 hours. the crowd is about to go mental, when you hear the guitar effect from the start of Damage inc.........

Damage inc.
So What
Dyers Eve

The gates open after 20 minutes and the crowd go home with a free copy of SKOM, S&M, Cunning Stunts and Cliff Em All on DVD. ;D

Posted by KingSomething on 01/21/05 @ 12:39 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

great list to man, but maybe a little weak with The Unforgiven 2 9/10

Breadfan
Master of puppets
No remorse
The Outlaw of torn
Some kind of monster
For whom the bell tolls
I dissapear
Wherever I may roam
Trapped under ice
Creeping death
The memory remains
Fade to black
---------------------------
Phantom Lord
Dirty window
The thing that should not be
---------------------------
Blackened
Fuel
One
Enter Sandman
Dyers eve
---------------------------
Purify
Sweet amber

To be Honest, all these lists are great, 'caus it's what the fans (Us) want. they are bound to be great!! :D

But, i'd give yours 9/10, mainly 'caus I don't like St. Anger (IMO) therefore, finishing on 2 st. Anger songs wouldn't be my cuppa tea.

Posted by ZeroOfTheDay on 11/21/04 @ 11:02 AM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Let's make it alternative and leave out the classic "crowd pleasers"

Orion (starting off with an instrumental? Why not?)
Ride the Lightning
...And Justice for All
St. Anger medley (Frantic, Sweet Amber, Shoot Me Again, My World, All Within My Hands, Some Kind of Monster)
The Unforgiven (to replace Fade or Sanitarium)
The Outlaw Torn
The Call of Ktulu
My Freind of Misery
*Ununsually long guitarsolo/jam
The Unnamed Feeling
Trapped Under Ice
----------------
The Unforgiven II (also to replace Fade or Sanitarium)
Disposeable Heroes (to replace MoP)
Low Man's Lyric (to replace NEM)
Bleeding Me (to replace One)
Fixxxer (to replace Sandman)
----------------
To Live is to Die

There are only 16 songs here, but the majority of them are very long.

Posted by Saint_Anger on 10/22/04 @ 04:46 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

1. Damage, Inc.
2. The Four Horsemen
3. Eye Of The Beholder
4. Fixxxer
5. Trapped Under Ice
6. Minus Human
7. Sweet Amber
8. The Struggle Within
9. Don't Tread On Me
10.Ride The Lighting
11.Whiplash
12.Wasting My Hate
-------------------
13.The Shortest Straw
14.Load/Re-Load Medley (better than you/bad seed/thorn
within/attitude/king nothing/prince
charming)
15.Frantic
16.Fade To Black
-------------------
17.53rd & 3rd
18.The Small Hours
-------------------
19.Invisible Kid
20.Jump In The Fire
-------------------
James saying: "You want some more? You greedy bastards!
21.Phantom Lord
22.Dyers Eve

And that's about it...The band is finally tired and the fans are all pleased (aren't we...?)

Posted by badseed on 01/13/05 @ 02:58 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

Metallica playing every single song in their catalog in one night,even the covers, no matter how long it takes. that's my dream setlist. Hey, it's my dream. ;D

yer thats everyones dream! but its not gonna happen, im bored so im gonna make another set, at the moment its just me and martin metal making them :P

1.No Leaf Clover (It would be a shock but quite cool with a really loud speaker intro, probably wouldnt work well but ah well)
2.Creeping Death
3.Battery
4.Dyers Eve
5.Trapped Under Ice
6.Phantom Lord
7.Last Caress
8.Whiplash
9.Nothing Else Matters
------------------------------------------------------------
10.Blackend
11.Fight Fire With Fire
12.Whiplash
13.Master Of Puppets
14.God That Failed
------------------------------------------------------------
15.Bleeding Me
16.Hit The Lights
17.One
18.Disposable Hereos
------------------------------------------------------------
19.Frantic
20.Seek & Destroy

Posted by Pulptomatoe on 02/02/05 @ 02:23 PM Post subject: Re: dream setlists

WHAT ABOUT THIS:
::::::::::::::::::

Ectasy of Gold

The Four Horsemen
Creeping Death
Sad But true
Battery
Sanitarium
Last Caress
The Unforgiven
One
Holier than Thou
Harvester of Sorrow
Unforgiven II
Bass Medley
To Live is To Die
Master of Puppets
Seek and Destroy
Guitar Solo
Wiplash
Of Wolf and Man
The Memory Remains
Fuel
Until is Sleeps
Nothing Else Matters

No Leaf Clover
Minus Human

Lepper Messiah
Fade To Black
Don't Tread On Me
Disposable Heros
Damage Inc
Breadfan

Frayed Ends Of Sanity
Ride the Lightning
Fight Fire With Fire
No Remorse

Blackened
Drum Solo
Trapped Under Ice

Blizkreig
Am I Evil
Orion
Ain't My Bitch
Frantic
St. Anger
The Unnamed Feeling

Wherever I May Roam
Entersandman
God that Failed
Call Of Ktulu
Though The Never

For Whom the Bell Tolls
Its Electric
Sabbra Cadabbra
Turn the Page
The Struggle Within
Loverman
Wiskey In the Jar-o

Metal Milta
Hit the Lights
Motorbreath
Die die Die My Darling
Jump In the Fire
Phantom Lord

And Justice for All
Escape
Ride the Lightning
The Thing That Should Not Be
The Eye Of the Beholder
The Shortest Straw

endcore.....

1. Damage Inc
2. One
3. Battery
4. Fade to black
5. Trapped under ice

I have the Peoria show on 8/24/2004 that kicks ass. I'm almost positive that was the first time they've played Trapped Under Ice since that one time in 2000.

I felt like starting a prediction for rare songs being played live. As you all know during this tour Metallica has whipped out Dyers Eve, Disposable Heroes, The Call of Ktulu, The God That Failed, The Unforgiven, Trapped Under Ice etc... but there are still songs left to play.

List only the rare songs they haven't played yet and you are confident they will play before the tour ends.

I think :

-My World
-The Struggle Within
-...And Justice For All

-Escape (don't think they'll play it but I wish!!)

I felt like starting a prediction for rare songs being played live. As you all know during this tour Metallica has whipped out Dyers Eve, Disposable Heroes, The Call of Ktulu, The God That Failed, The Unforgiven, Trapped Under Ice etc... but there are still songs left to play.

List only the rare songs they haven't played yet and you are confident they will play before the tour ends.

-Escape (don't think they'll play it but I wish!!)

;D they wont, but if they did!

I doubt they will play jusyice but i know they played whiskey twice i saw it live in dublin this year. When did they play trapped under ice? Iwould have loved to have heard that.

Of the rare song id love to hear
shortest straw
throught the never
prince charming
helpless
frayed ends of sanity

Has anyone else noticed that Lars has dropped alot of the double bass parts out of Metallica's live songs. I saw them in August in Peoria, IL and Larz didn't play the double bass parts in Battery, St. Anger, or Fight Fire With Fire. But he did play it at the end of Fade to Black. I wonder if he's getting too old......?
(The show still kicked ass. Trapped Under Ice Baby!)

Posted by BTHTDB82 on 11/15/04 @ 07:22 PM Post subject: Re: Favourite song

yes. yes it is.

can anyone guess the shortest *original* Metallica song? i know the longest is "to live is to die", at 9 minutes and something.
My guesses go to Metal Militia or Trapped Under Ice. I mean anyone could look it up, but I'm guessing without cheating.

ME AND MY BRO play in a band(im the drummer, hence the name drumsteen and my bro is the guitarist) and when we jam we play whiplash, motor breath, hit the lights, the four horsemen, fight fire with fire, trapped under ice, fade to black, creeping death, battery, puppets, damage inc., blackened, harvester, dyers eve, sandman, fuel, st. anger, frantic and sweet amber. When we have played live we have covered with our band battery, damage inc. and st. anger(Metallica), raining blood, angel of death (slayer), all hail the new flesh (strapping young lad) eeyore and intro of (sic) (slipknot) self bias resistor (fear factory). and future breed machine(double kick mid-section (meshuggah).

You can barely hear it on the recordings from Live Metallica.com but its there on Trapped Under Ice. But maybe i wasnt being clear before. Im talking about the double kick part near the end of Battery leading up to Larz's little two bar drum solo. There's no double kick there and there's definetly no double kick on fight fire with fire. Who knows? maybe that night he didnt play them for some reason. From what I've heard so far, he played those parts every other time.

Posted by drumsteen on 11/10/04 @ 12:06 AM Post subject: Re: Playing Metallica

I started playing metallica songs when i started playing drums in in jan 2000. I was lucky to be able to start using a double kick pedal, whereas a lot of other drummers start with a single pedal and eventually switch to double kick. Their left foot may not have been as strong or controlled as the right. Any ways, me and my brother have been jamming on tallica songs for years. We have almost learnt every song from KEM to the black album. Our band has covered damage inc, battery and st. anger live. For me personally the most challenging tallica songs to play on drums are dyers eve, disposable geroes, blackened, st anger (endurance), trapped under ice (non stop double kick!) and maybe shortest straw. But after awhile they aint so hard. Thats just me being obsessed and practicing most their shit for hours a day. Lars' stuff is fun but there is soooo much more challenging stuff to play. He's still a great drummer though. Kewl :P

Album: Ride The Lightning

1. Fight Fire With Fire: A thrashy heavy song about the world ending due to nuclear warfare. Fast and Aggressive. On a side note Metallica's first song featuring an acoustic intro. 9/10
2. Ride The Lightning: The first album named song. Heavy and Thrashy with a nice touch of brutality. Very catchy catchy song. Only drawback is that Jaymz's vocals can get irritating. 8.5/10
3. For Whom The Bell Tolls: Heavy song oddly based on an Ernest Hemmingwhey(sp?) STORY. Heavy and great bass by Mr. Cliff Burton. No solo which costs it a point but a half point due to the very cool interlude. 9.5/10
4. Fade To Black: The first ballad by Metallica. Touching lyrics about suicide. Guitar in this song has amazing emotion. My favorite of the soft songs. what the hell it gets 10/10
5. Escape: The infamous Escape that has never been played live. It's a good fast song but a tad bit of a mainstream sound to it. Good nontheless. 8/10
6. Trapped Under Ice: Much like Escape except faster and heavier. I still love it. 8.5/10
7. Creeping Death: Fast. Heavy. Brutal. Feirce. I love it except live it is much better. 8/10
8. Call Of The Ktulu: Awesome instrumental. My favorite song off of Ride The Lightning. Sweet bass too. I love the way this song has the ability to go on for so long but not drag out. 10/10

Ride The Lightning is a must have for any Metallica fan so if you don't have it BUY IT NOW! Final grade 9/10

St anger gets a 9.5 from me. I also feel that they are playing thrash stuff so fucking good right now. All the fast stuff on st anger is nothing like their old fast stuff. Metallica went through a period during the load and re-load tours where they barely played fast shit, and when they did it was at a pretty slow tempo in comparison to their early years. Whereas now, not only are they playing the likes of dyers eve, disposable heroes, metal militia and trapped under ice, they are playing them fucking just as fast as the 80's. Ive heard a couple of versions of battery, blackened, damage inc and motorbreath etc, from this tour and they are fucking smoke. Hetfields right hand is in overdrive and lars is thrashing on those hi hats like a little danish mother fucker. I love it :P!!!!!!!!!!!

Metal Militia
Disposable Heroes
Hit the Lights
The Four Horsemen
Ride the Lightning
Phantom Lord
Trapped Under Ice
Master of Puppets
Battery
Damage Inc

;D

hit the lights
motorbreath
whiplash
phantom lord
no remorse (2nd half)
fight fire with fire
trapped under ice
battery
disposable heroes
damage inc.
blackened
dyers eve
st. anger
the prince
helpless
green hell
shoot me again (last 1 min)

on drums its gotta be blackened, disposable heroes, dyers eve, st anger, shortest straw, trapped under ice

Kill'em All:
Whiplash, Four Horsemen, No Remorse, Seek & Destroy

Ride the Lightning:
For Whom the Bell Tolls, Ride the Lightning, Creeping Death, Trapped Under Ice

Master of Puppets:
Battery, Master of Puppets, Sanitarium, Disposable Heroes

And Justice for All:
Blackened, And Justice for All, One, Dyers Eve

Black Album:
Enter Sandman, The Unforgiven, My friend of Misery, Don't Tread on Me

Load:
The Outlaw Torn, The House Jack Built, Bleeding Me, Mama Said

Reload:
Memory Remains, Fuel, Devil's Dance, Fixxxer

St. Anger:
Frantic, St. Anger, Some Kind of Monster

Kill:Metal milita, seek and destroy, motorbreathe the 4 hoursemen

Lightning: for whom the bell tolls, fade to black, creeping death, trapped under ice

Puppetz: Battery, Puppetz, disposable hero's, leper messiah

Justice: ..and justice for all, one, blackened, the frayed eyes of sanity

Garage days revisited: The wait, Breadfan, so what!, last caress

Black: Sandman, Sad but true, Unforgiven, and NEM

Load: aint my bitch, until it sleeps, king nothing, hero of the day

Reload: fuel, the memory remains, unforgiven II, Low mans lyric

garage inc: sabbra cadabra, wiskey in the jar, die, die die my darling, free speech for the dumb

St. Anger: frantic, st.anger, dirty window, shoot me agen.

Posted by rabdill3 on 12/12/04 @ 01:16 PM Post subject: Back to the thrash days

If Metallica set up in a club and played the fastest, thrashiest set ever, what songs would YOU want to hear?

My take on things:
First and foremost, I'd like Whiplash. Metal Militia, Dyer's Eve, Trapped Under Ice, and Phantom Lord would be awesome too.

Want some MP3s from the Ottawa show? :D

Go to I've uploaded the first 7. Unfortunately 35mb.com will only let me upload 35mb and only have ONE account so I couldn't upload it all. :'(

But the good news is that for each person who downloads off of me I get 1mb more space to upload...so I'll upload more if people want them. :P

(Ottawa got The Prince, Unforgiven, Fight Fire With Fire, a chunk of Orion, the intro to The Frayed Ends of Sanity, The Memory Remains and lots more good ones!)

Or email me, I can send you specific tracks over MSN...leechers welcome, but I am looking for The God That Failed, Trapped Under Ice, Dyers Eve, Outlaw Torn, Bleeding Me and Damage Inc live ANYWHERE on THE MADLY IN ANGER WITH THE WORLD TOUR. So if you can help me out please let me know. :-*

I got a cool idea for when I am a mini post whore or two bit post whore in simple terms. Of a bleeding justice trapped under ice (which is a very cool tune). quote I haven't figured out yet but I am sure I can thing of something.

thanks very much for trapped under Ice

never heard it live before

any of you guys have either dyer's eve or trapped under ice live? or both. thanks

Trapped Under Ice

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=ACA21179C4C491D2F1A80176D3B86DD5

actually they played Trapped Under Ice in Peoria, IL this last August. I was there and it freaking rocked

Okay, whats next... RTL. Good album, one of my favorites... enough crap, lets get to my even crappier reviews.

1. Fight Fire With Fire - a good song, when i first heard it the intro kinda caught me off guard as not being what i expect from Metallica. This one gets my Trademark grade of a B+ (T).

2. Ride the Lightning - one of my favorite songs, kind of repetetive intro but it's still a great song. who made me god to say... A- ?! well, ITS MY REVIEW, so i said it.

3. For Whom the Bell Tolls - this is a great song and one of my favorites at the moment (RTL is an all time favorite). this song has alot going for it, i especially like the intro. FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS? me, beeyotch.(T) (my crappy "jokes" that make you wanna puke are also my Trademark)

4. Fade to Black - A DEFINITE FAVORITE OF MINE. one of the best rock ballad type songs they got and alot of people would agree with me. (if u don't, ur a muthafukka) this song is getting a muthafukkin' A.

5. Trapped Under Ice - used to be one of my favorites, i "over-listened-to" this song but it still gets a B. Kinda short but we all know how long Metalica songs are so sometimes you need a break from listening to songs 7+ minutes long.

6. Escape - not the best song on the album but it is by no means a bad song. alot of people bash it and it isnt't that popular but im still gonna give it a B or B-, not sure. i'll decide later.

7. Creeping Death - one of the best songs on the album. i'll give it a B+.

8. The Call of Ktulu - another good instrumental, but i like all of Metallica's instrumentals. a bit long but most of it is good. this nice long piece of voiceless crap (crap worthy of god) gets a B.

my overall grade for Ride The Lightning is an A-, deal with it.

yeah, it would have to be a two-disc maximum, so id say:

1)Ktulu (nice opener)
2)horsemen
3)bells (live)
4)escape
5)trapped under ice
6)motorbreath
7)sanitarium
9)ride
10)blackened
11)one

CD2
11)NEM
12)master
13)battery

14)outlaw
15)damage inc
16)dont tread
17)wolf&man
18)no leaf clover
19)unnamed feeling
20)invisible kid
21)damage inc.
22) ORION

that was one of the hardest lists to choose, and i know ive missed out some of the best, like AJFA, but we need some of thenew stuff..

You'd be surprised, there's more than a handful of songs WITHOUT wah solos.
Here is some stuff...this 'wah guide' is STRICTLY for solos on the STUDIO albums (not their live renditions), some songs you may think that have wah effects actually have other effects such as delay, flanger, etc. I've only done their first 5 albums (I didn't include Load and Reload because I'm not too familiar with a lot of those songs aside from the obvious like Fuel, Outlaw, Memory, etc). This may not be 100% correct but it's pretty close.

Songs with a wah solo:
Hit the Lights
Motorbreath
Anesthesia - pulling teeth (for bass, the whole song is practically a solo)
Phantom Lord
No Remorse
Fight Fire with fire
Trapped Under Ice
Battery
The Thing that should not be
Damage Inc.
...And Justice for All
Eye of the Beholder
Dyers Eve
Enter Sandman
Holier than Thou
Wherever I may Roam
Don't Tread on Me
My Friend of Misery
The Struggle Within

Songs WITHOUT a wah solo:
The Four Horsemen
Jump in the Fire
Whiplash
Seek and Destroy
Metal Militia
Ride the Lightning
Fade to Black
Escape (has delay in some parts, but no wah)
Creeping Death
The Call of Ktulu (has delay in some parts, but no wah)
Master of Puppets
Welcome Home - Sanitarium
Disposable Heroes (has wah in other parts of the song but not in the solo)
Leper Messiah
Orion
Blackened
One
The Shortest Straw
Harvester of Sorrow
The Frayed Ends of Sanity
To Live is to Die
Sad but True
The Unforgiven
Through the Never
Nothing Else Matters
Of Wolf and Man
The God that failed

IF you count the improv. at the end of "For Whom the Bell tolls" then yes, it has wah in it.

REMEMBER, the non-wah solos probably have a different effect to them...so if you think there's wah in it, there actually isn't.

I agree with this list except I am pretty sure that there is a wah used in Leper Messiah after the sweeping. I dont listen to load/reload enough to tell you exact songs, but Kirk did go a little wah crazy in the 90's. But live, you can expect him to touch the wah at least once a song.

You know what song is great and really got the shaft? Trapped Under Ice. Listen to that song a couple of times, and it grows on ya.

puppets is the better. lightning is good but i'm not a big fan of escape and trapped under ice. puppets is great all the way.

A friend of mine bought Ride The Lightning some years ago and made me listen to Trapped Under Ice, been hooked ever since..

Fight Fire: 7.5
Lightning: 8.5
Bells: 9
Fade To Black: 10
Trapped Under Ice: 8
Escape: 8
Creeping Death: 10
Ktulu: 10

This has an average of 8.875

Posted by merKaba on 04/28/06 @ 09:46 AM Post subject: metallica goodies

No Life 'til Leather Demo

The demo that started the legend...

1. Hit The Lights
2. The Mechanix
3. Motorbreath
4. Seek and Destroy
5. Metal Militia
6. Jump in the Fire
7. Phantom Lord

http://rapidshare.de/files/19104936/No_Life__till_Leather_Demo.rar

Megaforce Records Demo

The demo that continued the legend...

1. No Remorse
2. Whiplash

http://rapidshare.de/files/19098562/Megaforce_Records_Demo.rar

Ramones Covers

Came out at the same time St Anger did.

Commando
Today Your Love Tomorrow the World
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue

http://rapidshare.de/files/19105247/Ramones_Covers.rar

Un-albumed

Songs that didn't appear on Metallica albums.

We Did it Again (with Ja-Rule)
Fuel For Fire (basically just the song 'fuel' off reload, with the original lyrics)
I Disappear (one of the Mission Impossible soundtracks... I forget which)
Kenny Goes to Hell (from South Park Movie)
Temptation (from SKOM movie- just a snippet really)

http://rapidshare.de/files/19019083/Un-albumed.rar

Live Collection

some live goodies, including...

For Whom the Bell Tolls (1983 i thnk)
Trapped Under Ice
a couple of bass solos (cliff and jason)
low man's lyric
disposable heroes
welcome home
+ a few more

http://rapidshare.de/files/19067891/Live_Collection.rar

note about bootlegs
I didn't record these, metallica didn't record these- some legend in the crowd recorded these, but as awsome as he or she is, they are no sound engineer. These aren't the best quality, but given the circumstances, I think its just good to have these for sentimental reasons. :)

Cliff's First Show

05.03.83- San Francisco, at The Stone.

1. Intro
2. The Mechanix
3. Phantom Lord
4. Jump In the Fire
5. Motorbreath
6. No Remorse
7. Seek and Destroy
8. (Anesthesia) - Pulling Teeth
9. Whiplash
10. Am I Evil
11. The Prince
12. Blitzkreig
13. Metal Militia

http://rapidshare.de/files/19036997/Cliffs_first_concert.rar

Cliff's Last Show
26.09.86, Sweeden

1. Battery
2. Master of Puppets
3. For Whom The Bell Tolls
4. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
5. Ride the Lightning
6. Cliff Bass Solo
7. Whiplash
8. The Thing That Should Not Be
9. Fade to Black
10. Seek and Destroy
11. Creeping Death
12. The Four Horsemen
13. Blitzkreig

http://rapidshare.de/files/19040524/Cliffs_last_show.rar

Enjoy!

Im with crackofbass. Fight fire with fire and trapped under ice are anything but duds. There the heaviest THRASH songs of all time.I liked RIDE THE LIGHTNING better. they both kick ass but speaking in terms of albums i like ride the lightning better.

Posted by drumsteen on 10/28/04 @ 07:12 PM Post subject: Re: Best Metal Album

Agree with the Slayer albums, the Slipknot album and the Pantera album, but Machine Head's album is a load of shiiiiit
really!the first machine head album sounds so much like metallicas old shit. i know they had a patch of some average albums but burn my eyes rocks. the end of none but my own sounds almost identical to trapped under ice. oh well jst my opinion :P

Puppets by far. RTL had a couple of duds (in my opinion, Trapped Under Ice and Fight Fire With Fire), while Master of Puppets had none. Also, the title tracks are WAY different in terms of quality. MoP is just better written in general, except for Fade to Black, which i prefer to Sanitarium. Also, Puppets has the best Metallica instrumental (Orion) as opposed to Call of Ktulu (which is still awesome).

Posted by D-Man on 11/05/04 @ 03:39 PM Post subject: Re: Rankings

And I've implemented Banaani's list, with a small switch.

These may not be permanent though...

I also had these thought up:

Helpless
Trapped Under Ice
Stone Cold Crazy

I don't think I'll use Helpless though, because some n00bs will think "OMG someone changed my title that's offensive," blah blah blah.

I have a feeling we're gonna be getting some complaints from other sites that we "stole their idea" because they also use similar titles. Oh well.

i don't know why the CD is such a classic.
yeah me neither but the first four songs are great and the last 2 songs are great too. i don't like trapped under ice and escape that much, but they're still ok.

yeah me neither but the first four songs are great and the last 2 songs are great too. i don't like trapped under ice and escape that much, but they're still ok.

Hey, dude i meant Creeping death. standing for CD. RTL rocks! I loooove Escape!

ok with skydiver.
Fight fire with fire, trapped under ice and escape aren't that great, not to be compared anyway with the thing that should not be, battery or any other song from MOP. Still, the call's awesome, creeping death's a must and fade was the song that made my girl say: "fuck, you're right, these guys are really good".
So, well, of course MOP's better even though Ride's close behind. But I don't think that anybody'll ever write again sumthing like MOP, Leper, Orion or Sanitarium.....

I think it wouldn't be fair to ask a thg. like that, just 'cos there is smthg. damn good in both MOP and RTL. But, if asked, I should say I like RTL a li'll beter. Not because of the techniques used; it's just that there is a "kind of magic" that makes you (or, at least me!!!)feel everything those songs say. As if you were trapped under ice freezin' or strapped in the electric chair waitin' for your death to come... But that doesn't mean I don't like MOP, for God's sake!!!

Hard question.

For one thing, I actually prefer "Fight Fire With Fire" to "Battery.

Let's see how the rest plays out:

FFWF or Battery = FFWF
RTL or MOP = MOP
Bellz or Thingy = Bellz
Sanitarium or Fade = Fade
Ice or Heroes = SO HARD but I say Heroes
Leper or Escape = Leper
Orion or Ktulu = Orion
Creep or Damage = Damage Inc.

Master Of Puppets = 5
Ride The Lightning =3

Yet I feel that the S&M version of "Ktulu" is better than Orion and I feel that sometimes "Trapped Under Ice" is better than "Disposable Heroes" soooo:

THEY ARE EQUALLY TIED AS THE TWO BEST METALLICA ALBUMS.

Posted by Leave_Me_Be on 12/14/04 @ 07:51 PM Post subject: Re: Least Favorites

KEA: Pulling Teeth
RTL: Trapped Under Ice/Escape
MOP: Lepper Messiah
AJFA: Shortest Straw
Black Album: My Freind Of Misery
Load: Poor Twisted Me
ReLoad: The Memory Remains
Garage Inc: So What
St.Anger: Dunno..

Fight Fire With Fire - 9.5
(thrash at its finest, one of my favorite riffs ever)

Ride The Lightning - 9
(love it but at some times vocals get annoying)

For Whom The Bell Tolls - 9.5
(one of my favs, i love lars drumming actually and bass is killer!)

Fade To Black - 10
(no explanation needed, just fucking incredible everything)

Trapped Under Ice - 9
(great opening solo, no complaints really)

Escape - 8.5
(underrated as hell, love the sirens, love the chorus)

Creeping Death - 9
(kick ass solo, DIE DIE DIE DIE.. classic)

The Call of Ktulu - 9.5
(amazing instrumental, S&M is even better)

RTL is a top top metal album and I'd give it around a 9.5 for its overall effect.

Kill: Pulling Teeth or Metal Militia
Ride: Trapped Under Ice
Puppets: Thingy
Justice: Justice
Black: Struggle
Load: Poor Twisted Me or Ronnie
Reload: Better Than You
Garage: Mercyful Fate, The More I See or Crash Course
St. Anger: Purify

Posted by Saint_Anger on 12/16/04 @ 04:19 AM Post subject: Re: Least Favorites

1. Motorbreath
2. (If I have to choose) Trapped Under Ice
3. (God, this is hard, man) The Thing That Should Not Be
4. The Frayed Ends Of Sanity
5. Of Wolf And Man
6. Cure
7. Slither
8. Tuesday's Gone
9. Purify

hheehe i was the one who did st anger ratings
now il do lightning
LORDMETAL u rated belltolls 8 and ktulu 7 AWW man there is nooo fuckin way man

FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE --9 Awsome fuckin sweet intro ahhh i love iit and then the fuckin madness

RIDE THE ...---8 the lyrics are fuckin great

FOR WHOM THE BELLS TOLL---10 cliffs intro rules great lyrics and sound

FADE TO BLACK ---10 a favorite to everyone lyrics solo sound perfect song

TRapped under ice - 6 i really never heard this one

escape --6 same for ice

creaping death -- 7 its not bad

KTULU --10 the intro everything rules i cant even explain the change of speeds real master peice

the guys
LARS-10 lars is drum god
JAMEs--8 i never like the screechy voice that much cos my first album was justice
CLIFF--10 u can cleary notice his bass skils
KIRK --10 guitar god fade to black 3 solos SWEEEEET

my ratings:

Fight fire with fire: 9(awesome fucking thrash,hard,heavy,big motherfucker with killer riffs and awesome drum work by mr. ulrich, especially the double kicks after kirks solo)

Ride the lightning: 8(good song but gets a bit boring after awhile)

For Whom the bell tolls: 9,5 (live10+++)(cunning stunts10++++++++++++++++) (a live song, the album version doesn't catch)

Fade to Black: 10 (a legend, three beautiful solos and the outro has made me cry)

Trapped Under Ice: 9 (very good, best climax of the album)

Escape: 7 (i agree with james, the song is boring, worst one from the first five albums)

Creeping Death: 9 (also a live song, album version isn't that catchy, uneless you listen to it very loud)

Call of Ktulu: 9.5 (all metallica instrumentals are classics, allthough this one is the worst it's still great)

the guys:
Kirk: 10 (great solos)
Lars: 9 (he didn't yet show his true skills in RTL but still good)
Cliff: 10 (call of ktulu, and bellzz great work RIP)
James: 9 (his singing is screaming but that doesn't bother that much great playing)

Same system. 10 the best, 1 crappy (i assure you there wont be a 1) try to give you an unbiased opinion

Fight Fire With Fire- 7. really good, and it started the album with a bang, just compared to the others it doesnt quite deliver.

Ride The Lightning- 8. Another great song. good riffs, (especially the start) unreal solo and good drumming. just a bit machine-like at times.

For Whom The Bell Tolls- 8+half. brilliant song. class bass, OK drums, good enough lyrics and OK solos.
on a whole a really good song.

Fade to Black 10. incredible. Amazing Solos, good drums really good vocals and Cliff was amazing as usual. Well Structured too.

Trapped Under Ice9. brilliant.the Solos are the best from Kirk, and everything else was good too. Great tune. ;D

Escape 9+half. also incredible and extremely underrated. the sirens at the end have a kind of horrifying sound to them. the chorus is epic. the drum beats are confusing during the good verses. the solos are good too. awesome!

Creeping Death- 7+half. good, but i think its a bit overrated. i like the dual bits and the chorus is pounding, and the verse is OK. good song.

Call of Ktulu- 7. the least best instrumental for metallica but still good. the Solos are some of the best and the general tune is good too. the jam at the end is awesome. a good song. :)

Ride The Lightning(the Album) 9+half. an incredible album. second best in my opinion. it improved dramatically from KEA and should be ranked as one of the best albums ever. the melodic feel to it is awesome and the general feel to it is breathtaking. A breathtaking album in all areas.

Posted by cloudnine on 12/14/04 @ 04:50 PM Post subject: Re: Least Favorites

KEA = Pulling Teeth
RTL = FFWF or Trapped Under Ice
MOP = Leper Messiah (sorry, I just don't really like it)
Justice = Frayed Ends of Sanity
Black = Struggle Within
Load = Wasting my Hate
Reload = There's so many to choose from, its a tie between Slither, Better Than You, Attitude, and Prince Charming
Garage Inc. = The More I See
St. Anger = Invisible Kid (it would have been decent were it not a ridiculous 8 minutes long)

Posted by cloudnine on 10/25/04 @ 10:47 PM Post subject: Rate the Albums

Hokay! It's time for one of the toughest exercises I've come across.

It's rating the eight Metallica albums in order of worst to best: KEA, RTL, MOP, AJFA, Black, Load, Reload, St. Anger (studio, original material only - Garage Inc and S&M don't count) - and boy, did I have a tough time.

Consider everything - the songwriting, the music, the general feel of the album - EVERYTHING :P.

Before I start, let me say that I truly DISLIKE no Metallica album (aside from Re-Load). They all have their respective merits - I just want to create controversy!

Here goes nothing:

8. Re-load
I just can't like this album. All the songs except for Fuel (which really gets tired after a few listens), Unforgiven II (just SLIGHTLY below the original in quality) Fixxxer, and parts of Carpe Diem Baby just...suck. There's nothing memorable about any of the other tracks, and all of them are just boring, uninspired, and are generally just sub-par. What's the point of hearing good lyrics if there's no good melodies to put them to?
7. Kill 'em All
While I certainly appreciate that this was their first album and they hadn't really found their sound yet, the lyrics on this one were pretty juvenile. Of course, they were still in their teens - quite excusable. There are some awesome riffs to be found here (Four Horsemen, Hit the Lights, Seek and Destroy) and I don't DISLIKE the album - but it definitely wasn't their best.
6. St. Anger
As we all know, this was a total departure from the "usual" Metallica sound - rough, gritty, and personal, this one totally polarized people. I like this album a lot - but it can get tired after awhile, and let's face it the crafting of the songs wasn't nearly as complex (especially when you look at the guitar tabs) as their earlier work. Like I said - you have to understand the history behind this one to "get" it. Good album - but not their best.
5. Ride the Lightning
Ouch! Putting RTL as their 5th-best album will get me some flack here. However, I feel their second album has definite low points (Trapped Under Ice, Escape) and I can't say I love the title track all that much. Make no mistake - Fade to Black, Creeping Death, Ktulu are all amazing pieces of songwriting - but I feel this album is weaker than their later efforts. Of course, it includes the ultimate crowd-pleaser For Whom The Bell Tolls, too - which is pretty shibby.
4. Black Album
What can be said about this album that hasn't already been said? Mostly abandoning the thrash sound that defined them, hard rock became the flavour of this album - and what a delicious one it was. Incredibly well-designed songs, there's no doubt that this album contains TONS of winners. Aside from all the "big" songs (Sandman, Sad But True, Unforgiven), in here contains the ultimate power ballad of all time in Nothing Else Matters and the killer God that Failed, Friend of Misery, and Through the Never. This album has some duds, though - Struggle Within and Holier than Thou are sub-par compared to the rest.
3. Load
Metallica takes a sharp left turn with this one - but what a gorgeous turn it is. Hetfield's voice is in its best years, with him being able to sing both hard and soft seemingly effortlessly here. Probably the most personal and finely crafted lyrics of any Metallica work, this album contains two incredible epics (Outlaw Torn, Bleeding Me) which are truly gorgeous. Ronnie is another overlooked gem, with incredible lyrics based on a school shooting. I also like the "fight" songs here - Ain't My Bitch and 2x4 are fun deviations from the album's general theme of looking inward to find deeper meaning. Except for The House That Jack Built and Thorn Within, every track on this one is a classic in my eyes.
2. ...And Justice for All
The ONLY thing that kept this one out my the top spot was the production. This album has my favourite Metallica song on it (One) and other killer tracks like Dyers Eve and Blackened. There exists on this album the second-best Metallica instrumental BY A HAIR - To Live is to Die, dedicated to Cliff. My complaints are the bloated nature of some of the cuts (the title track, Shortest Straw) and the obvious shoddy production. The bass is totally nonexistant, and this one has WAY too much treble in all the instruments and the voice.
1. Master of Puppets
Considered Metallica's masterpiece by many, I consider it to be essentially tied with AJFA for best album. The classics are all here - Master of Puppets, Sanitarium, Damage Inc, and the best instrumental ever to grace a Metallica record (Orion). The Thing That Should Not Be is heavyness incarnate, and Disposable Heroes is a precursor to AJFA's One. I can't say I like Battery - I never really could get into it. This album simply has the best song structure of any album of theirs - time changes, interludes, and classic solos reign here.

Like I said - this list was extremely hard to put together, and I can't really say I like MOP over AJFA or vice versa.

Your opinions?

Heres my ratin for shit.. \m/

Fight fire with Fire- Starts off with a nice slow riff, that leads into a burstin, trashy metal tune, 9/10.

Ride the lightning- Very good song, its somthing to pull up at red light and blast beside the old folks beside u in a K Car listenin to the crystals er somthing. Very good solo, amazin.. one of the best Kirks ever composed, yet i do think there cood of been a slow part in the song that would of completed it. 8.4/10

For whom the bell tolls- Amazing song, very very good intro bass riff, good work Cliff.. to bad hes not around to read it! WE SALUTE YOU!, anyhoo, very good song, catchy chorus for sure, but i do think there cood of been a better solo in it besides the ending wah part there.. 8.1/10

Fade to Black- Yes indeed, one of the best songs MetallicA has ever done. Best solos, very good riffs pickin with the Am C G E pattern there, best pattern ever. nothing else to say, but this has got to be a "must listen". 10/10

Trapped under Ice- Very good and or evil song, good singin, lyrics, very nice riffs indeed, good and fast nice NICe chorus, good work with all, no flaws in this song. but i do give it a 9.7/10

Escape- Very good intro, and chorus, the chorus so very catchy, itl be stuck in your head for months.. its kinda got a slow feelin in it.. but its all distortion.m over all, a 9.6/10

uhh.. what are the others.. OF COURSE!

Creepin death- on of my fav metallica songs of all time, best catchy chorus, nice NICE solo, begin is good, nice intro, and the part were he sings- "die, by my hands....,."
very good work james, ya all did good on that song 10/10..

Call of Ktulu- Yes a very good book by Lovecraft, although one of the best instrumental song by MetallicA, its kinda.. repitive the first half, but.. its not borin. at all. we salut Ktulu (Cthulhu, original spelling) 9.7/10

OVER ALL, I give this album 9.3!, HAIL METALLICA!!, also i need a bass player thats 11-15 years old and lives in toronto..! METALLICA!