Posts for 'the black album'

i think his voice is best on the black album.

Posted by Metaltrooper on 11/13/04 @ 08:05 AM Post subject: Re: Drum Solos

he did a drumsolo in almost every gig during the black album tour

I'd love to have Lars drum kit from the Black Album tour as well.

Posted by SosQ on 10/06/04 @ 07:42 AM Post subject: Re: The Black Album

and ztl_olmi the black album is not lame!
limp bigshit is lame!
>:(

no. they just jammed on it on the justice tour. and it was in the justice medley during the black album tour.

yeah i love those guitars. but i think kirks guitar are nice too. aaahh! i want them. or how about lars drum kit from the black album tour? ;)

Posted by TeddyB on 11/16/04 @ 01:48 PM Post subject: Re: Metalliquotes

"You can call it what the fuck you want: The Black Album, Metallica, The Fifth Album, Metallica Sucks Big Fucking Penises. Call it what you want. No big deal."

Posted by metallipath on 12/19/04 @ 05:54 PM Post subject: Re: Lars fan thread!

well lars, he was unreal until the black album imo, kill em all was his best, he lost it after master...hes not THAT good now, he cant play the double bass through most songs now :'(

Posted by Jan on 11/14/04 @ 06:38 AM Post subject: Re: Drum Solos

he did a drumsolo in almost every gig during the black album tour

no.. i think only in 1992, i have some 1993er boots and there's no drum solo at all.

Well I heard songs like Enter sandman, sad but true, Dissapear, St. anger. So I bought st. anger then the black album and I was blown away by it all and now I have all 10 albums plus the live shit box set and it's all good :)

Well considering NEM was written BEFORE the basically two years of nonstop touring supporting the black album and they still play an 6-8 monthlong tour, I'd say it's time for a new song, entitled "I'm surprised our wives aren't cheating on us".

Look for it in 2005 =o

Posted by BTHTDB82 on 11/16/04 @ 04:53 PM Post subject: Re: Metalliquotes

"You can call it what the fuck you want: The Black Album, Metallica, The Fifth Album, Metallica Sucks Big Fucking Penises. Call it what you want. No big deal."
Lol who said that one?

Posted by Sandman611 on 12/20/04 @ 04:50 PM Post subject: Re: Lars fan thread!

(this is what i meant to ask before, but I said and justice for all, where I meant to say the black album) :-/

If you measure the speed of Metallica's songs by how fast Lars drums, what do you think was Metallica's fastest song after the release of the 1991 album Metallica?

Posted by ztl_olmi on 12/09/04 @ 05:02 AM Post subject: Money or music?

So, Metallica could probably have quit after the black album, but they kept on doing records. They're god damn multi-millionaires, but they're still planning on a new album.

What do you reckon? Are they in it for the money or the music? And no, I'm not pointing fingers here.
I just want your honest opinion.

Posted by drumsteen on 10/28/04 @ 11:41 PM Post subject: Re: Angel of death

They have jammed on raining blood once or twice. Theres a bootleg version where hetfield plays the double kick intro to raining blood on drums during one of Lars' drum solos that they used to fucked around with, on the black album tour. He was tearing it up! Apparently they have doodled with war ensemble too. Hope that helps :-/

I was reading some reviews of Metallica's albums and I came across a portion of a Justice review that said "Metallica made their most ambitious and least accessible album." That leads me to my question, which album do you feel is for Metallica fans only? Do you think its Justice or another album? Its certainly not the Black Album.

I just think it somewhat odd that he wants to further his tastes, but doesn't want to consider delving into other genres.
this is a freaking metallica forum, metallica is metal. if you want to be open minded and artsy, go to a dream theater forum. oh, and i say the black album.

I've been listening to metallica since Justice.. i was only bout 5 at the time and one of my earliest memories in life is sitting in my brothers room listening to the justice album, I liked them ever since, then the black album came out and i remember thinking it was the coolest thing ever and i wanted to play the guitar ever since..

Hi,
my first metallica-album was the black one, I bought it when it came out. So that`s 13 years ago, I guess. Before that time I heard lots of heavy metal and hard-rock, black sabbath, led zeppelin, deep purple, rush.......I knew some metallica songs from friends, but after buying the black album, I bought all the others, and I got hooked ;D

Posted by drumsteen on 11/16/04 @ 07:21 PM Post subject: Re: metallica stuff

I'd love to have Lars drum kit from the Black Album tour as well.
indeed. I have iron cobra double bass pedals as lars and heaps of other drummers use. I just got my pair of lars AHED signature drum sticks too which are by far the best sticks ive ever used. oh my yes

OK, fair point, i wud like to point out tho that an average setlist on the black album tour had anywhere up to 25-28 songs on it...

Unless you count bass, guitar and drum solos, the average setlist was pretty much 18-20 songs.

If you can show me some longer ones, I stand corrected.

Posted by The.4th.Horseman on 11/21/04 @ 08:30 PM Post subject: Re: Drum Solos

he did a drumsolo in almost every gig during the black album tour

Holy shit, was that the tour where he had like 50 toms and Neil Purts drumset would of looked liked a peice of shit beside its greatness, not to mention all the symbols, and he does that freakin huge drum roll/solo thing in MOP.

I discovered MetallicA when i was about 11. I bought the black album and liked them even more. the more albums i bought the more i liked them.i liked them even more when they were on mtv icon. that was awesome.i liked them even more when i saw them concert.im going to see them in concert in Dallas tomorrow.i liked them even more when i learned there songs on guitar.

Some dude on here said that everything went bad after the black album then proceeded to say his favorite songs were Fuel, Whiskey in a Jar, and Turn the page...Whoever said that don't hate me for this thread, i just thought is was funny.
I think you'll find that was somebody quoting what another person on a different forum said.

I have been listening since "And Justice for All." I bought it sometime in either 1988 or 1989, so I was either 14 or 15 at the time. I liked it, but not enough to get the other albums. Then the Black Album came out in 1991 and I bought that. That got me hooked enough to go back at get the first three albums plus the Garage Days EP. And they have been my favorite band ever since!

Posted by STATLER on 12/25/04 @ 02:32 PM Post subject: Re: The Black Album

I really like almost every song from the black album. I'd rate this album a 9.6 out of 10. You got the Unforgiven, NEM, Sandman, Wherever i may roam, Of wolf & man, and more great songs (which I really like) such as My friend of misery or Through the never. Some of the heavy songs like Dont tread on me, Holier than thou or The struggle within, i think, are really amazing; i just don't understand why some people don't like these songs.

Oh ya, great review master of orion

just in my opinion,james wasnt too good in kill em all.ride the lightning he got better but was still too young,save for fade to black which he sings so well.master of puppets is just as good,then justice for all came.honestly,the songs werent great but his voice sure was.then black album cemented that with what i feel is his best singing(and this time there were good songs).later it just got more rough which is good,but i like the black album singing.

I love the Black Album and I really cannot understand why some people would call this "lame." With songs like Sandman, Sad But True, The Unforgiven, Don't Tread on Me(I agree that this is very underrated), Nothing Else Matters, Of Wolf and Man, and The God That Failed this is definitely not "lame". The other songs are all very good too, theres not a bad song on the album. Im not gonna say this is their best since I haven't listened to all of their albums, but this is an awesome album.

i have to say that in the 80s metallica was slightly better but since 1990 metallica has had 3 studio albums that were expierimential, and there is no dening that load and reload arent exactly metal, though still good, and i have learned to accept st. anger but DOD & BNW killed it in every way. so my conclusion is that80s-metallica wins, 90-maiden wins, and in the 21st century maiden is winning but we are only half way thru. and i think bruce sounds better than jaymz now, because jaymz ruined his voice on the black album. it doesnt sound the same now.

yeah i read that he did like 6 seconds of it at a time, i believe he plays it different when they play it nowadays to compensate.
I'm not sure if this is true or not as I've never heard it before. I'd be interested in finding out what your sources are. I do know that Lars would play the chorus and verse parts for the black album songs and those were repeated. It was done because he hit so hard he couldn't play the whole song while retaining a lot of dynamics.

has everyone who says "Maiden Sucks" heard all the Maiden albums? I Pass my judgement based on the fact that i have heard E V E R Y song from B O T H bands. so please, dont get all defensive of metallica and say bad stuff about maiden till you have heard all thier music. its ok to say, "From what i have heard metallicas better" but you guys who dont even own more than 2 maiden albums and say they suck are just as bad as the people who say "Metallica sucks, st. anger is shit" and they cant even name any albums other than st. anger and the black album.

Posted by tallicablack99 on 12/18/04 @ 12:28 AM Post subject: Re: Bob Rock

I think Bob Rock has helped the band out in many ways. The production quality is top notch on The Black Album and he was a driving force for that album. You have to give the guy credit, he pushed Metallica on this album. Like they said before, they never worked that hard on an album before. Some also criticize the Loads but I think they are brilliant experimental albums featuring some of Metallica's best songs. The production quality is once again, excellent. St. Anger is when the quality backslides but it was for a good reason and Bob knew that.

Then again, it is interesting to think about where Metallica would have gone without Bob Rock. What would have happened after the Justice album?

TSHF is not the return to Rust in Peace that I had hoped, but it is a decent album by Megadeth and easily their best album in a decade. The album features Chris Poland, former Deth lead guitarist and probably one of the greatest guitarists to ever waste his time in a metal band (Poland is a jazz guitarist by nature). My only gripe is that Mustaine didn't let Poland do anything other than a few short solos. As to the original question, Megadeth caught up and surpassed Metallica in 1990 with Rust in Peace. The problem is that they didn't realize they were in the lead, and after the Black Album, dumbed their music down a bit to once again follow Metallica's lead. ::).

Posted by drumsteen on 12/14/04 @ 05:35 PM Post subject: Re: Bob Rock

Dude, firstly Bob Rock had nothing to do with that. It was James and Lars. Secondly, having instrumentals was a Cliff thing.
i dont beleive i actually said that it was bob rocks choice to not make it an instrumental. It was just something off topic from the bob thing coz someone else brought up the black album. If you read my previous posts you will notice that i really applaud bob rocks creativity, achievements and input into metallicas recordings, but my point once again is that i feel that he may be losing that drive or motvation to push tallica to their limits and make them be the best band that they can be in the studio environment. Thats all i meant :-/

I play Nass, my main influences were after listeneing too Metallica albums ebfore the Black album. They really got me into Metl. Cliff Burton is my main influence, the biggest, the oen who got me too want too play Bass after seeing him on a live video of ''For whom the bell tolls'' from 85' and he started with a Bass solo, i was like ''What the fuck ??? That shit is amazing'' and the rest is history lol. Also Steve Harris in most of the maiden albums witht eh exception of the x factor. Also Geezer Butler. Apart from that my other influences in a music perspective and not just bass > Hendrix, Zepplin, Sabbath, Pantera, Anthrax, Ozzy, Megadeth, AC DC and other great legeds who i cant think of at the moment.

Ever since I saw the video "For whom the bell tolls" on TV, I was like, whoa; so this is what Metallica is. Then a few days later, I saw the "St.Anger" video and I was pretty amazed. So I went on the internet, downloaded some more songs by Metallica, and ever since then, I have become hooked. The first Metallica album I ever purchased was the "Black Album" just because I heard from friends that it was probably the best one to buy. However, when I purchased Master of Puppets, I thought the songs were just as good, if not even better. I thought their sound was absolutely stunning. I couldn't get enough of it. As a result, I went out and bought almost every album they had. Today, I'm still just as hooked. In fact, as your reading this, I am gradually increasing my addiction with Metallica. The lyrics, the explosive sound, the solos, etc... They will always be my favorite band. :)

ok, here is the deal with me. i used to like st. anger and say "it is better than all the other shit out there"

how wrong i was. Iron Maiden's BnW and DoD are still 100% metal up your ass. Megadeth's TSHF is still 100% metal up your ass. i could go on, but my main point is that people say metallica had to change to be relevent. bullshit. if you take DoD and compare it to 7th son, they sound like they were made within a year from each other. same with TSHF and Rust in Piece. these bands have stayed true to thrash metal despite its unpopularity, and metallica has moved a way from thrash completeley. what the fuck happened to "Fuck MTV we'll never make a video" or "if youve come to see a bunch of guys in spandex and the words oo baby in every song, youve got the wrong band" hell, i havent even heard a "METAL UP YOUR AAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!"
since the black album days. what the hell happened?

Posted by Sandman611 on 01/12/05 @ 08:01 PM Post subject: Re: Lars fan thread!

Good quotes. That was really cool. I also think the same about Nirvana, despite a lot of people's opinions about them on this board. I liked them before Metallica, and I thought Kurt, while not the best musician in the world, was still a really great artist. When I listen to them, I feel really close to them, like there is that connection.

And Sandman, you may only attain the status of Lars Man Whore if you love him as much as us.

I bought Nevermind the same day I bought The Black Album, both my first albums for both bands, and i wasn't disappointed by either. Well I became more of a Metallica fan than a Nirvana one because of my musical preferences, but i still consider Nirvana one of my favorite bands.

and yeah I like Lars, just not at you're level of whoreness, and besides I never actually wanted to be a whore. I just like hanging out with you guys on this forum. sooo...LONG LIVE LARS ;D

ok, here is the deal with me. i used to like st. anger and say "it is better than all the other shit out there"

how wrong i was. Iron Maiden's BnW and DoD are still 100% metal up your ass. Megadeth's TSHF is still 100% metal up your ass. i could go on, but my main point is that people say metallica had to change to be relevent. bullshit. if you take DoD and compare it to 7th son, they sound like they were made within a year from each other. same with TSHF and Rust in Piece. these bands have stayed true to thrash metal despite its unpopularity, and metallica has moved a way from thrash completeley. what the fuck happened to "Fuck MTV we'll never make a video" or "if youve come to see a bunch of guys in spandex and the words oo baby in every song, youve got the wrong band" hell, i havent even heard a "METAL UP YOUR AAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!"
since the black album days. what the hell happened?

just two words.... bob rock. >:(

has everyone who says "Maiden Sucks" heard all the Maiden albums? I Pass my judgement based on the fact that i have heard E V E R Y song from B O T H bands. so please, dont get all defensive of metallica and say bad stuff about maiden till you have heard all thier music. its ok to say, "From what i have heard metallicas better" but you guys who dont even own more than 2 maiden albums and say they suck are just as bad as the people who say "Metallica sucks, st. anger is shit" and they cant even name any albums other than st. anger and the black album.

I used to own every Maiden album up to Seven Sign at that point in time anyway. and I gave them all away except KillerS, Maiden In Japan & Piece Of Mind everything else I did not like and I am not interested in the new stuff I have heard most of it but it's good riding in someone else'S car music but, nothing I would spend money on.

I notice a few MP3 reviews from livemetallica.com, and after I got the Toronto show (my 3rd show)I knew I had to add another one.

Blackened: Whats new? We always open up with Blackened. The guitar start building and the crowd goes crazy. I have 2 other livemetallica.com MP3's, so thats what I'll use to compare. In comparison to the others, this sounds the exact same. It still packs a punch though.

Fuel: I hate this song. I used to like it, now I think they should take this song and destory it. Forget about it. Replace it with ..Justice or Ktulu or Sandman or sometin. NO MORE FUEL!

Wherever I May Roam: Normally I find this song OK, but in this show it it 10x better. Live this song is great. It is alot of fun to listen to, and its one of the songs greatly enhanced by being played live

Unforgiven: Normally I hate this song. I find it annoying, the guitar, James' voice.. But as with "Roam" I love this version. It is probably the best thing to listen to in this show. The highlight.

Sad but True: This is one of those songs you play for the crowd. Everyone is singing along. We love it! Same thing again... I like this song live.. Nothing special on The Black Album

No Leaf Clover: I have never heard this song besides S&M, I wanted to see what it is like without the orchestra.. And it was real cool. I was expecting alot from this one.. And I got alot.

Frantic and St.Anger: Im just gunna review these together. These are the two St.Anger songs that are played almost every show. I thing Frantic sounds nice live in all the shows I have had... St.Anger I just... do not like.

Jungle Essance: This is Rob's bass doodle. The opening bit of it is pretty cool, and interesting. It gets better as it goes along and then suddenly you get Orion. OMG it is amazong to hear Rob play it! One day they shold just play Orion :)

Thats my review of this concert so far. This is asically the first disc minus Fade to Black. That is coming up tomorrow. In comparison to the other two concerts so far, this one is much, much better than both.

Posted by dketland on 11/06/04 @ 12:19 PM Post subject: Stuff for Sale!!!!!!

Hey all

Still got loads of stuff for sale. Here's the list:

...And Justice For All 1988 CD 836 062-2 GERMANY
...And Justice For All 1988 12" VERH 61 UK First press with inners
15 Pieces of Live Shit 1993 2xCD PRCD 8879-2 USA Bootleg
Classic Albums: Metallica 2001 DVD EREDV162 UK Regular version. Region 2
Creeping Death 1984 12" 12KUT 112 FRANCE First press, picture sleeve
Creeping Death 1984 12" CV 12KUT 112 ENGLAND Translucant blue vinyl, barcode on back
Creeping Death 1984 12" 12KUT 112 UK First press, picture disc, no barcode
Creeping Death 1984 12" 12KUT 112 UK Second press, picture disc, with barcode
Creeping Death/Jump In The Fire 1990 CD 842 219-2 UK Red-ish CD
Cunning Stunts 1998 DVD 058 632 2 UK 2 DVD set with cardboard slip-case. Region 2
Die, Die, Die My Darling 1999 CD 562 153-2 GERMANY Tour dates on inner
Enter Sandman 1991 CD 868 733-2 GERMANY
Enter Sandman 1991 7" METAL 7 UK Picture Disc
Enter Sandman 1991 12" METBX 712 UK Box Set With Prints
Enter Sandman 1991 12" METAL 712 UK
Fan Can #1 1996 CD/VIDEO/TSHIRT FC-001 USA Bottle Opener Scratched
Fan Can #2 1997 CD/VIDEO/TSHIRT FC-002 USA
Fuel 1998 CD METCD 16 UK Part 1
Fuel 1998 CD METCD 16 UK Part 2
Fuel 1998 CD METCD 16 UK Part 3
Fuel 1998 CD 568 413-2 AUSTRALIA Part 1, Cardboard Sleeve
Fuel 1998 CD 568 415-2 AUSTRALIA Part 2, Cardboard Sleeve
Fuel 1998 CD 568 417-2 AUSTRALIA Part 3, Cardboard Sleeve
Garage Days Re-Revisted 1987 CD 888 788-2 GERMANY 'Last Caress' misspelled 'Last Cares'
Garage Days Re-Revisted 1987 12" METAL 12 UK First UK issue, missing 'The Wait'
Garage Days Re-Revisted 1987 12" 888 788-1 HOLLAND Sticker on front
Garage Inc. 1998 CD 538 351-2 UK
Harvester Of Sorrow 1988 CD METCD 2 UK Cardboard Sleeve
Harvester Of Sorrow 1988 12" METAL 212 UK Skull Labels
Hero of The Day 1996 CD METCD 13 UK Part 1
Hero of The Day 1996 CD METCX 13 UK Part 2
Hero of The Day 1996 CD METCY 13 UK Red cover, Motorhead Mess, with Poster
Hero of The Day 1996 12" 0113875HWR UK Silver embossed cover
Jump In The Fire 1983 12" 12KUT 105 UK Second print, No barcode
Jump In The Fire 1984 12" CV12 KUT 105 UK Red vinyl, no barcode
Jump In The Fire 1986 12" PKUT105 UK Picture disc, first print, no barcode
Kill 'Em All 1989 CD 60766-2 USA re-release
Kill 'Em All 1989 12" 838 142-1 EUROPE UFO labels, no country listed
King Nothing 1996 CD 64197-2 USA Draw case
Live at Wembley Stadium 1992 CD METCL 10 UK Nothing Else Matters down the spine
Live Shit: Binge & Purge 1993 3CD, 3VHS 9-61594-2 USA NTSC videos
Live Shit: Binge & Purge 1993 3CD, 3DVD 40236-2 USA Region 1
Load 1996 CD 532 618-2 FRANCE
Mama Said 1996 CD METCD 14 UK Part 1
Mama Said 1996 CD METCX 14 UK Part 2
Mama Said 1996 7" METAL 14 UK Picture Disc
Mandatory Metallica 1996 CD MM CJ-1 UK Bootleg
Master of Puppets 1989 CD 60439-2 USA Re-release
Master of Puppets 1986 12" MFN 60 UK first label with inner sleeve, white detail down spine
Metallican 1991 CD/VHS/SHIRT MECAN1 UK PAL, NUMBERED 008077
MetalliStore 1993 CASSETTE PR-8723 USA Free tape
No Leaf Clover 2000 CD 562 696-2 UK Part 1
No Leaf Clover 2000 CD 562 697-2 UK Part 2
No Leaf Clover 2000 CD 562 698-2 UK Part 3
Nothing Else Matters 1992 CD 866 725-2 GERMANY Part 3
Nothing Else Matters 1992 7" METAL 10 UK Picture sleeve
Nothing Else Matters 1992 12" METAL 1012 UK
Nothing Else Matters 2000 CD 562 572-2 AUSTRALIA From S&M
One 1989 CD 23DP5438 JAPAN with lyrics and obi
One 1989 12" METAL 512 UK Mislabelled b-side
One 1994 12" 858 547-1 UK Picture disc from Live Shit, with back insert
One 1989 10" METPD 510 UK Picture disc, with insert
One 1989 7" METP5 UK Picture sleeve
One 1994 CD 858 545-2 GERMANY From Live Shit
Reload 1997 CD 536 409-2 UK Regular version, with sticker on front
Ride The Lightning 1989 CD 60396-2 USA Re-released version, with new fan club info
Ride The Lightning 1984 12" MFN 27 FRANCE First print, inner sleeve
S&M 1999 DVD 8536-40218- UK Regular UK version, region 2
S&M 1999 CD 546 797-2 UK regular UK version, region 2
Sad But True 1993 7" METAL 11 UK Black lables
Sad But True 1993 12" METAL 1112 UK
Sad But True 1993 CD 864 411-2 UK
Sad But True 1993 CD METCD 11 UK
St. Anger 2003 CD Digipack 0602498653388 EUROPE CD & DVD pack. no country listed. With sticker
The Black Album 1991 CD 61113-2 USA Black CD
The Good, The Bad, The Live 1990 12" 875 487-1 UK Semi-sealed, complete
The Memory Remains 1997 7" MET 15 UK Picture sleeve
The Memory Remains 1997 CD METDD 15 UK Blue cover
The Memory Remains 1997 CD METCD 15 UK Red cover
The Unforgiven 1991 CD 866139-2 UK
The Unforgiven 1991 7" METAL 8 UK Picture sleeve
The Unforgiven 1991 7" METAP812 UK Picture disc, with insert
The Unforgiven 1991 12" METAP812 UK With sticker
The Unforgiven II 1998 CD METCD 17 UK Part 1
The Unforgiven II 1998 CD METCX 17 UK Part 2
The Unforgiven II 1998 CD METDD 17 UK Part 3
The Unforgiven II 1998 CD 568 551-2 AUSTRALIA Part 1
The Unforgiven II 1998 CD 568 553-2 AUSTRALIA Part 3
Turn The Page 1998 CD 566 593-2 GERMANY Contains Fuel video
Turn The Page 1998 CD 566 591-2 GERMANY
Until it Sleeps 1996 CD METCD 12 UK Part 1
Until it Sleeps 1996 CD MET CX 12 UK Part 2
Until it Sleeps 1996 7" METJB 12 UK Promo, silver labels, plain white sleeve
Until it Sleeps 1996 10" METAL 12 UK Red vinyl, back insert
Wherever I May Roam 1992 CD METCB9 UK Digi-pak with tour dates
Wherever I May Roam 1992 CD METCD9 UK
Wherever I May Roam 1992 7" METAL 9 UK Picture sleeve
Wherever I May Roam 1992 12" METAL 912 UK Gate-fold with tour dates
Whiplash 1984 12" MRS-04 USA Grey lables
Whiskey In The Jar 1999 CD METCD 19 UK Part 1
Whiskey In The Jar 1999 CD METDD 19 UK Part 2
Whiskey In The Jar 1999 CD METED 19 UK Part 3
Whiskey In The Jar 1999 CD 566 972-2 AUSTRALIA Part 1-Press Kit

Also got:

The Unnamed Feeling CD EPand 12" picture disc UK
St. Anger CD singles parts 1+2 UK.
Frantic CD singles parts 1+2 UK.
St. Anger 7" UK

Interesting items are highlighted.

Mail me dketlandATgmail.com]to make an offer or for more info./pictures, etc.

Cheers, Dan

lars sang am i evil many times during the black album tour
i'd like to get a bootleg of that

so if anyone got it
that would be so nice if you uploaded it

Metallica made a great contribution to metal...but never forget the hundreds of thousands of bands that never got the credit they deserved for their work. The ones that should have been big, but happened to be overshadowed at the wrong time by say -- The Black Album, Nevermind, Peace Sells etc.

A moment for the bands that never made it to the level Metallica did (but helped spread the metal faith regardless!), please. :'(

Hey team just back from my world trip, took all metallica with me ;D ;D However, i found that the old stuff was just brill!! but some of their recent compilations have missed the button, BY A MILE ??? ???
Judging by their recent escapades on that documentary it appears they have lost their nerve big time. There has been nothin good since the black album masterpiece.
I think i will switch to will smith on my next trip to Africa (i stay in touch with all the boys this time round- you no who i mean team!) At least hes got some balls intact.

ever heard of "Live Shit: Binge and Purge"? You wanna tell me Metallica hasn't released a fucking live album? "Live Shit" you get a whole New Mexico show on CD, from the black album tour and videos of both thier san diego show form the black album tour, and their seatlle show from the "Justice" tour. Metallica put out the most gargantuan live album out there, and you say they haven't released a live album? i'm not mad. i just can't believe you missed "Live Shit"

Posted by Disposed_Hero on 10/06/04 @ 07:16 PM Post subject: Re: what a fucktard

I love the guy who says that it went bad after the black album and then proceeds to say that Turn the page, fuel and whiskey in the jar are his favouriste songs :P

Posted by Banaani on 10/07/04 @ 08:16 AM Post subject: Re: what a fucktard

I love the guy who says that it went bad after the black album and then proceeds to say that Turn the page, fuel and whiskey in the jar are his favouriste songs :P

Haha.

Fuckers

Posted by Piepants1 on 10/07/04 @ 08:41 PM Post subject: Re: what a fucktard

I love the guy who says that it went bad after the black album and then proceeds to say that Turn the page, fuel and whiskey in the jar are his favouriste songs :P

hahaha, he has no fucking clue

I love the guy who says that it went bad after the black album and then proceeds to say that Turn the page, fuel and whiskey in the jar are his favouriste songs :P

HAHA! who was that by the way... let me guess...Scofield...am i right?

dude's a fuckin retard...
black album was definitely not their peak. ever heard of MOP ya fucktard? yeah, all metallica stuff sucks after, but of course ur favorite song is fuel.

A)So your telling me that "...and justice for all" sucked
B)the black album was fucking awesome
C)All of Metallica's shit is fucking awesome

Posted by Jackass on 11/20/04 @ 01:00 PM Post subject: Re: what a fucktard

A)So your telling me that "...and justice for all" sucked
B)the black album was fucking awesome
C)All of Metallica's shit is fucking awesome

no, u missunderstand me. he said black album was their peak, i simply dissagree. I never said ajfa sucked. Black album was awesome. Metallica is awesome. Ajfa is right up there with mop. Dont start flaming me.

Posted by tallicablack99 on 11/20/04 @ 12:47 PM Post subject: This pissed me off

This morning I was in a book store and they had books on the best selling albums from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. I looked at the ones from the 70s, 80s, and 90s and something really got to me. It didn't bother me so much that in the 70s book that Black Sabbath's Paranoid was only #63 and sold 4 million albums (although for its time that was awesome) and that their Debut wasn't in their at all (I wasnt surprised by it but IMO I think its better than Paranoid).

I read the 80s book and I was glad to see where Master of Puppets and ...And Justice For All ended up. Puppets was #49(it sold 6.1 million) and Justice was #39(it sold 7.1 million). Thats awesome numbers since Metallica was still somewhat of an unknown, although their music video for "One" probably changed that a little. I was a little disappointed that Ride The Lightning wasn't on there and I thought Ozzy's Blizzard of Oz did better than what was shown,it was #100 with 4.1 million sold, although that is still very good.

Now we come to the 90's book and this is where I got very angry. Metallica's Black Album we all now was huge success and it shows in the book. It was #12 with 13.3 million sold. Now that is just amazing but what made me furious was the albums in front of it. There was Britney Spears debut which was at #10 and sold 600,000 more copies than the Black Album and there were 2 FUCKIN BACKSTEET BOYS albums ahead of it. WOW. I knew those albums sold alot but shit that much? These people arent even around anymore. They were a fuckin fad, they dont have talent. I cant believe a Backstreet boys album sold 16 million!!!!!!!!!WTF is wrong with people? I know I am overreacting but I found it pretty shocking that they sold that much and were ahead of something truly amazing.

This morning I was in a book store and they had books on the best selling albums from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. I looked at the ones from the 70s, 80s, and 90s and something really got to me. It didn't bother me so much that in the 70s book that Black Sabbath's Paranoid was only #63 and sold 4 million albums (although for its time that was awesome) and that their Debut wasn't in their at all (I wasnt surprised by it but IMO I think its better than Paranoid).

I read the 80s book and I was glad to see where Master of Puppets and ...And Justice For All ended up. Puppets was #49(it sold 6.1 million) and Justice was #39(it sold 7.1 million). Thats awesome numbers since Metallica was still somewhat of an unknown, although their music video for "One" probably changed that a little. I was a little disappointed that Ride The Lightning wasn't on there and I thought Ozzy's Blizzard of Oz did better than what was shown,it was #100 with 4.1 million sold, although that is still very good.

Now we come to the 90's book and this is where I got very angry. Metallica's Black Album we all now was huge success and it shows in the book. It was #12 with 13.3 million sold. Now that is just amazing but what made me furious was the albums in front of it. There was Britney Spears debut which was at #10 and sold 600,000 more copies than the Black Album and there were 2 FUCKIN BACKSTEET BOYS albums ahead of it. WOW. I knew those albums sold alot but shit that much? These people arent even around anymore. They were a fuckin fad, they dont have talent. I cant believe a Backstreet boys album sold 16 million!!!!!!!!!WTF is wrong with people? I know I am overreacting but I found it pretty shocking that they sold that much and were ahead of something truly amazing.

Funniest thing I've read all day. Also the most pathetic.

Posted by xav on 11/18/04 @ 04:46 PM Post subject: french review

hi there

here's my review of the black album (in french):
http://www.pafpaf.org/article.php3?id_article=57
enjoy, react, or maybe translate before ;)
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xav

Posted by drumsteen on 11/10/04 @ 12:06 AM Post subject: Re: Playing Metallica

I started playing metallica songs when i started playing drums in in jan 2000. I was lucky to be able to start using a double kick pedal, whereas a lot of other drummers start with a single pedal and eventually switch to double kick. Their left foot may not have been as strong or controlled as the right. Any ways, me and my brother have been jamming on tallica songs for years. We have almost learnt every song from KEM to the black album. Our band has covered damage inc, battery and st. anger live. For me personally the most challenging tallica songs to play on drums are dyers eve, disposable geroes, blackened, st anger (endurance), trapped under ice (non stop double kick!) and maybe shortest straw. But after awhile they aint so hard. Thats just me being obsessed and practicing most their shit for hours a day. Lars' stuff is fun but there is soooo much more challenging stuff to play. He's still a great drummer though. Kewl :P

I've been looking all over the place for the Day On The Green gig in 1991. I think it was the first gig on kicking off one of their tours before the black album? "Sad But True" the video is on "A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica" dvd. Anyone know where I can download the whole show or at least some of the songs? THANKS! LATER!!!!

"Pulling your strings.....Justice is DONE!"
-Damaged Justice-

anything Black Album and onwards wasnt the real Metallica*** Room for improvement, listen too Kill em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets and And Justice for All. Then listen to The Black Album, Load, Reload, St. Anger. If you tell me that the Black Album etc is improvement too the albums released prior, you need your head checking. In the other albums, they showcase their talents and skills more, they proove that they are the greatest in them albums, thats the real Metallica, the Metallica that is the greatest, not a commerciallised Metallica who just record any shit and put it out on a C-D. That was their minds thinking of money and not music.

Yeah, ''compose'' was the wrong word too use, i cant think of the word i meant. Yeah James was a big influence with the lyrics and rythm but he didnt influence the Basslines that Cliff played, if there was no Cliff, there wouldnt have been a Master of Puppets. Yeah One is a great song but after that album they ebcame commercial and their style changed alot, Sad But True cannot be compared too most of the tracks in the previous albums. He wasnt just one of the four guys as when he died everything changed, Metallica werent the same, fior one they sign up with Bob Rock, James takes vocal lessons, Kirk even took guitar elssons during load. They werent thrash no more, they werent even Metal, they were labelled as ''Legends of Metal'', not ''Legends of Rock''. Sad but true isnt even that much of a great hit, its a good song but its nothing special, as like everything on The Black Album, no wonder so many fans were disappointed with it. It is a good album but its not amazing and its not the Metallica everyone was used too. Even Lars was calling the Black album ''shit'' in the same quote about Metallica loosing their souls when they lost their bassist, he also called Load, im sur ehe would have said the same if he had doen that interview after load, garage and st anger. James always said that he wanted the respect that Cliff always had and that he wanted that attitude, thats what Cliff brought too the band, his attitude and his unbeatable talent. Plus if he was just 1 of 4 guys, Metallica would have never been obsessed with bringing him too Metallica for sixx months and moving too California just so he would join. There would have been the ''Ride the Lightning'' we hear now, there would be no Master of Puppets, etc because without him, everything would have been completely different. Cliff is the greatest Bass player who will ever live, Kirk is one of the greatest guitarists, James is great at writing lyrics and Lars is a great drummer but they both arent the greatest. I mean if they didnt have Cliff there riffing out, what would they have brought out for Ride the lightning and Master of Puppets, nothing because they needed him for them albums, they needed the input from Cliff.

Yeah, ''compose'' was the wrong word too use, i cant think of the word i meant. Yeah James was a big influence with the lyrics and rythm but he didnt influence the Basslines that Cliff played, if there was no Cliff, there wouldnt have been a Master of Puppets. Yeah One is a great song but after that album they ebcame commercial and their style changed alot, Sad But True cannot be compared too most of the tracks in the previous albums. He wasnt just one of the four guys as when he died everything changed, Metallica werent the same, fior one they sign up with Bob Rock, James takes vocal lessons, Kirk even took guitar elssons during load. They werent thrash no more, they werent even Metal, they were labelled as ''Legends of Metal'', not ''Legends of Rock''. Sad but true isnt even that much of a great hit, its a good song but its nothing special, as like everything on The Black Album, no wonder so many fans were disappointed with it. It is a good album but its not amazing and its not the Metallica everyone was used too. Even Lars was calling the Black album ''shit'' in the same quote about Metallica loosing their souls when they lost their bassist, he also called Load, im sur ehe would have said the same if he had doen that interview after load, garage and st anger. James always said that he wanted the respect that Cliff always had and that he wanted that attitude, thats what Cliff brought too the band, his attitude and his unbeatable talent. Plus if he was just 1 of 4 guys, Metallica would have never been obsessed with bringing him too Metallica for sixx months and moving too California just so he would join. There would have been the ''Ride the Lightning'' we hear now, there would be no Master of Puppets, etc because without him, everything would have been completely different. Cliff is the greatest Bass player who will ever live, Kirk is one of the greatest guitarists, James is great at writing lyrics and Lars is a great drummer but they both arent the greatest. I mean if they didnt have Cliff there riffing out, what would they have brought out for Ride the lightning and Master of Puppets, nothing because they needed him for them albums, they needed the input from Cliff.
But if CLiff was this supposed ultra diverse listener of music, dont you think HE would have wanted to do something besides just thrash metal? Its contradictory.

Posted by Metal-Assmonkey on 10/19/04 @ 07:38 PM Post subject: Re: what is ajfa

dude, these are some common acronims on this forum.

KEA, Kill-Kill em All
Horses-Horsemen
Jump-Jump in the Fire
RTL, Ride-Ride the Lightning
FWTBT, Bellz-For Whom the Bell tolls
FTB, Fade-Fade to Black
Creep-Creeping Death
MOP, Puppets-Master of Puppets
Thingy-The thing that should not be
MOO-Master of Orion :D
AJFA, Justice-...And Justice for All
Eye-Eye of the Beholder
Harvester-Harvester of Sorrow
TLITD-To live is to Die
Black-The Black album
Sandman-Enter Sandman
Sad-Sad but True
Roam-Wherever i may roam
NEM-Nothing Else Matters
Misery-My friend of Misery
Bitch-Aint My Bitch
Two times Four-2X4
Jack-House that Jack Built
Hero-Hero of the Day
Outlaw-Outlaw torn
Memory-Memory Remains
Carpe Diem-Carpe Diem Baby
Lyric-Low mans Lyric
Anger-St. anger
Monster-Some kind of Monster
Window-Dirty Window
Kid-Invisible Kid
Unnamed-The Unnamed Feeling
Hands-All within My hands
(c)rap-RAP MUSIC
Trendy Assholes-Everyone who does stuff because others do

...and i think you get the picture becuase i typed a lot for you, jackass.

Bob Rock contributed alot to this solo as well. Not one of the best though, my favorite solo on the black album is either NEM or Struggle.

Here's what I think it would be like:

- Justice would definately be more heavily influenced by the bass. I recall Jason Newsted complaining at one point about how little emphasis there was on the bass in that album and I have to say that I agree. I think it might be because Jason was new to Metallica at the time so he had less influence over what kind of sound the album would generally take on... I always thought Jason was very talented and I lament how he seemed to be downplayed at times.

- I don't think the Black Album would have been very different, there was a pretty good amount of bass influence and the songs were thematically pretty Cliff-ish, though probably a bit more radio-friendly. I disagree about the filler-track comment, however, in regards to the Black Album. I don't think there was a single song I didn't like, which is more than I can say for Load and Reload.

- Speaking of the 'Loads, I don't think they would have happened. Something about how alternative they sounded would probably have been a turn-off for Cliff. There were some good tracks but I consider more than half to be filler. It was around this point where Jason bailed, and I believe Cliff might have done the same.

- And then ya got St. Anger... I don't know if Cliff would have stuck with 'Tallica for this long. It is hard to say if Cliff would have gone down this road or not, because on one hand he didn't give a fuck about what people thought of him, but St. Anger just doesn't seem his style (then again, St. Anger's sound wasn't typical of James or Kirk either, though I think it complimented Lars nicely).

Regardless, I think Metallica made a good choice with Rob Trujillo, he is a nice guy and plays a helluva bass (Anyone hear him solo yet? Amazing!). You have to wonder though, what might've been had Cliff still been around and Jason as well.

fuckin loved it!!!!! Shitty mix or not 95% of that album does it for me. i say the louder u pump it up the better too. the fact that ive seen Some Kind Of Monster three times has made me appreciate what went into that album all the more. big fan. Could any one imagine how amazing it would have sounded if it was mixed and produced properly by someone like Rick Rubin!either way it hasn't left my cd stacker since the day it came out. METALLICA!!!!!!

I agree with what he said!

It's one of my Favorite Metallica albums, I like it better then Kill'em All, Reload, Garaged days Inc and sometimes more then the Black album. Thinking about it, I like it a little more then Master of Puppets too...

Ride the Lightning
Load
...And Justice for All
St. Anger
Master of Puppets
Black album
Reload
Kill'em All
Garage Days inc.

That's how I rate their albums, I like all of them, but that's how they stack against each other IMO.

Posted by Brian on 11/04/04 @ 11:58 AM Post subject: Re: hetfield or hammett????

so, james can play solos better than people give him credit for. ever heard the "Enter Sandman" demo? he played the solo on that. they play it on the "Classic Albums" dvd they did for the black album.

jason even admitted that metallica cared more about record sales than metal. i think that was true from the black album to st. anger, but now there back to metal. just look at the live stuff. they are playing in ways they havent done since justice. the next album will be a return to thier greatness that they havent had since '88. look at maiden and megadeth. they both pulled of albums that were thier best in 15 years. metallica is next.

I hope that it will be a mix between St.Anger and the Black album and with a little bit of flavour of Kill'em all and that it taste like Ride the lightning.

Posted by Metal-Assmonkey on 12/15/04 @ 12:03 AM Post subject: Re: a beard..

i want to get the look jaymz ha on the black album. long hair and handlebars. yeah that would fuckin rock, ive eben got the dirty blonde wavy hair too.

Posted by BTHTDB82 on 11/05/04 @ 06:18 PM Post subject: Re: lars' NEW shiny set

He's used a bell brass since the Black Album. The songs sound the same to me whether he was playing them on his old Camco kit or his Granstar Custom kit or the old Starclassic kit.

I hope that it will be a mix between St.Anger and the Black album and with a little bit of flavour of Kill'em all and that it taste like Ride the lightning.

Or something like MOP will do good too!

lars and kirk are best on the justice album. james voice is best on the black album. and his guitar work is best on load/reload. cliff is best on puppets. jason is best on the black album an s&m. and we don't know about rob yet but he kicks ass live.

Posted by crackofbass on 11/10/04 @ 07:10 PM Post subject: Re: Album Covers

the black album

As long as Alvinator007 knows that st anger wasnt meant to be well mixed and they wantedto achieve that raw-unpolished sound. Its not like they finished it off and said hey this sounds even better than the black album. They just wanted to prove to themselves they they could bring out an album that wasnt over produced. Either way the next album will sound amazing. Ive already heard there will still be fast stuf as well as fat groovy riffs too. Rockin!

Posted by Metaltrooper on 10/27/04 @ 03:17 PM Post subject: Re: Hets live voice

i think james s&m voice is his best live voice
also liked the black album tour voice
I think that on this madly in anger with the world tour his voice a bit too high (that's probably because of age or something)

I beleive the new album will sound like st anger mixed with the black album.
What i mean by this i will be heavy,fast and melodic.
It will be produced alot better then St Anger such as the guitar sound,lars cymbal sound and less lenght in there songs.
I 100% believe Kirk will put guitar solos in every song this time.
Bob rock better get his act together because he didnt produce St Anger well. I still love the album because it has some amazing songs.
Metallica are masters and will learn from there mistakes so i expect a awesome killer album.

well, i can tell you guys the reason his voice changed so much after the black album. during the recording of SO WHAT, he ruined it and had to go thru voice trianing and everything. that is why it sounds so muc deeper. he wasnt really comfortable with his voice until puppets, and it was best on black/justice, and then he ruined it in 1992 or 93, im not sure which.

Posted by drumsteen on 10/29/04 @ 01:00 AM Post subject: Re: Hets live voice

If u watch the classic albums dvd (black album) he explains that he pushed his voice too hard due to all the yelling in 'so what', and he still had heaps of vocal tracks to lay for the black album after that. He ended up developing nodes and callouses on the inside of his throat, so he went to a canter at a cinnagog who eventually got his voice back into shape again. Hope that helps :-/

I'm actually a little surprised Justice did better than the Black Album. I mean both are great albums but I would've thought the Black Album would've been a few spots higher. Still a very good list. Go Puppetz!!!

Posted by drumsteen on 10/26/04 @ 09:57 PM Post subject: Hets live voice

Hey. Just wondering, which tour throughout Metalllicas history, has James' voice sounded the best??? I really liked his voice on the black album tour. He still had a good growl on him but his clean voice were awesome too. I particularly liked his singing/clean voice around 99', like on s&m. However his heavy vocals werent as good. Ive also noticed that he now "sings" songs like battery and puppets, whereas in the past, like on the justice tour he would scream the lyrics to those heavier songs. Im not saying this is a bad thing, its just an observation ive made. Its amazing how much James' voice has changed through the years. So, which era was your favourite??? ;D ;D

Posted by Memory_Remains on 11/19/04 @ 07:05 AM Post subject: Re: Sell outs?

People who say Metallica sold out don't understand the band at all, that's my opinion, and fuck theirs ::) And shirts don't mean selling out, it's just a way to show you like a band. When non-fans say they sold out I just don't give them attention because it's pretty stupid, and they don't understand that they didn't change to get fans, it was because they were bored with thrash (talking about the black album here). Also, I might be completely wrong and they might be total money-grubbers, but their music will always be fucking awesome.\
I totally agree with you, I was just wondering what everyone else thought about the "sold out" idea.

When Kirk said that the black album was their, "Dark Side of the Moon." Do you think he meant that he considered The Black Album to be their best?

Jay-Z did rip-off Metallica. Its as simple as that. Sure, Metallica's highest selling album isn't officially called "The Black Album" but it didn't take long for fans to call it that. Long before Jay-Z's album. The Black Album is truly awesome, Jay-Z is not. I liked his music when I had bad taste. His movie also proves that he is ripping off Metallica. "Fade to Black" Come on. I know he is black but he can come up with a more original title than that. It's kinda odd that theres a movie about Jay-Z and Metallica in the same year too.

Someone mentioned that Metallica was ripping off The Beatles idea for The White Album. It was a reference, not a rip off. The White Album showed us a change in The Beatles career. It showed us that they were gonna break up in the near future. With The Black Album, it showed that Metallica was widening their style with shorter, more simple songs but would still be of the same quality as their previous albums.

If Cliff hadn't died, you can bet the black album would be a few songs shorter. About a quarter of that album is just filler.

Posted by SkyDomain on 12/17/04 @ 07:51 PM Post subject: Re: Classic Albums DVD?

When Kirk said that the black album was their, "Dark Side of the Moon." Do you think he meant that he considered The Black Album to be their best?

No not best in that sence but it was the unique album that set them on the map.
Before that album they were just another band, but suddenly they were No.1 in the metal scene. They even attracted non-metal fans to buy this album, so it had such a big meaning for them.
Plus they became more or less financially independant because of it.
Metallica will never be able to make an album that big again.

So it had the same effect that it had for Pink Floyd, maybe not thier own personal favourite album but the album that meant the most for them and the band.

What the band members personal favourite album is you really have to ask them.

Thats the whole fucking point, they didnt improve, they changed dramatically. Anything from The Black album wasnt the real Metallica, it was what Bob Rock wanted them too be, i mean after all, he was the manager of Bon Jovi, no disrespect too Bon Jovi. Proof of the fact that Metallica changed for the worse, is the fact that Lars actually said that in a quote about Cliff. He said that when Cliff "Cliff Burton was the man who had that wild spirit that makes a band like Metallica a quality band. He wasn't only the bass player, or someone else in the band who co-write the songs, he was the man who made Metallica reach the sky. After his death, Metallica sold their souls for fame and fortune, things that he would never wanted to deal with. He'd never allowed all that "Black Album" to happen, and neither that damn "Load" thing. When Metallica lost their bass player, they also lost their soul."

---Lars Ulrich--- that was after the Load album aswell, so think what he wuld have said after St. Anger ?

Posted by Leave_Me_Be on 11/22/04 @ 08:40 PM Post subject: Re: Sell outs?

Personally, I believe that... If they changed their music just for the money, they would of kept one style. All their albums changed styles dramatically, but after Black Album, because the change was so great, everyone went after them. If they changed it jsut for the money, why not keep every album like The Black Album? (This was mentioned before by someone up therE) It was their best selling album (I think?), so why not keep making music like that? They changed again to the "Load" style, then went to cover songs, then with an orchestra, then.... Hard Metal again. Every style was different, from KEA, to RTl, to MOP, to ..AJFA. If you don't think every album sounds different, somethings wrong. Every album has minor, or major differances from the last, but Metallica has evolved. They don't just do it for the $$$$! If they did, we would of heard another 3 Black Albums, or another 3 Load albums, etc, etc. I don't think they sold out. I didn't really like the change, but the bottom line is that they sell out every show, they are still going at 40, and they simply are still teh greatest abnd ever by far!

( I was real bored when I wrote this.. Thats why it is so long)

I like St. Anger but I certainly do not love it. It has four excellent songs on it (Frantic,SKOM, Unnamed Feeling, and AWMYH) but some of these songs just go on MUCH longer than they should(St. Anger and Invisible Kid are perfect examples) and even the two shortest songs (Dirty Window and Purify) are crap. The rest of the songs, I'd say, are pretty good.

Someone said that this was the heaviest album of Metallica's since Justice. Yeah it is the heaviest since Justice. But have you listened to the albums? They are the exact opposite. Justice is their most ambitious, complex and intellectual album (though im not calling their other albums dumb). St. Anger is none of those three things I just mentioned. This maybe their most personal album but it is also their worst. It's like Metallica just decided to forget what they did with The Black Album and the Loads and go back to their earlier days. Well, this album sounds nothing like The Black Album or the Loads, but it doesn't quite sound like their earlier albums either. It is stuck somewhere in between.

St. Anger was good for the band, they need to get all their anger out and get back on track. The lyrics, while far from their best, are quite good on their best songs(The Unnamed Feeling in particular). Like I have said before, I liked the album, but I do not want another album like this for their 9th studio album.

Posted by lepermessiah on 11/26/04 @ 01:14 PM Post subject: Re: expierimentation

if i'm not mistaken, kirk once said that they have some songs, kindda like the black album, that werent used for a record. who knows one they they will make an album with those songs-

i just got the book for the black album so now i can pretty much play the whole album, also im really into the four hoursemen

i dont expect, nor do i care if they do go back and put out out old school thrash again, personnally, i respect metallica for the fact that no matter what fans underground or mainstream, new or old, that metallica consistently changes things up, keeping theyre music fresh and interesting not stagnant and repetitive like oh lets say, slayer, anthrax, iron maiden(except brave new world and dance o death), testament, and among others, dont get me wrong, theyre all great bands, but when you repeat your stuff, your fan base only gets smaller because its only the die hard fans that like routine wholl stick with the band. you dont become one of the greatest of rock bands by being repetitive, the beatles, hendrix, the rolling stones, are all prime examples. anyway,i know ill get backlash for "bashing" slayer but whatever. anyway, i think some of the reason why they didnt put solos into st. anger is because they wanted to sitr it up, it happened with fade to black, it happened with one, then the black album, then the haircut, and itll keep on happening.

First, he names his album "The Black Album" which was clearly metallica's album for years.

Now his new project or video is called "Fade to Black"

WTF?
Metallica doesnt have an album named the black album. Its self titled.