Posts for 'load and reload'

Posted by davethemetalhead on 11/23/04 @ 11:17 PM Post subject: st anger tour.

i went to the big day out in sydney australia, where they had a second show for the first time cause metallica were playing and it sold out so quickly. they played songs from every album exept for load and reload. did anyone else see them on the st anger tour not playing load or reload songs. (don't really know of any st anger tour as they only played big day out in oz and some private shows). the set was seek and destroy, bells, fade, creeping, battery, puppets, sanitarium, blackened, one, harvester, sandman, sad, nothing, frantic, st anger, dirty windows. Kirk played solo's on the st anger songs.
i like load and reload (maybe not as much as the others) does any one think this is a tad weird.

Posted by scofield on 12/08/04 @ 11:52 PM Post subject: Re: Albums you must own

load and Reload are hard rock.

Posted by scofield on 11/21/04 @ 02:29 PM Post subject: Re: no leaf clover

No it wasnt, it was written around the time of load and reload.

Posted by AC on 12/09/04 @ 10:05 PM Post subject: Re: Money or music?

st.anger was a step in the right direction for them, I hated it, every single song, the lacking of solos, the trash can for drums that lars used, but it beats load and reload by a long shot

im hoping for a great new album from them

Posted by drumsteen on 12/08/04 @ 11:58 PM Post subject: Re: Albums you must own

yes load and reload are but i believe i said st anger as well as the majority of their other albums. i am not going to label them as rock just because of two albums. Especially when they are a minority compared to the rest of their catalogue

I love all their albums, except......hm...st.anger, I don´t love st.anger, I just like it, but I don`t love it.
I love the first 5 albums most, but I also love load and reload. It depends on my mood which album I prefer.
For me it`s fine that they have changed and as memory remains said it: who hasn`t. ;D

yes load and reload are but i believe i said st anger as well as the majority of their other albums. i am not going to label them as rock just because of two albums. Especially when they are a minority compared to the rest of their catalogue

what would you call them then if there not rock?

Posted by ZeroOfTheDay on 12/08/04 @ 06:11 PM Post subject: Re: .The hair thread

I have very long hair, somewhere between 40 and 50 cm. And I'm gonna die with it, trust me. I wouldn't cut it for a million bucks. I started growing it back when I was 8 or 9, before I even listened to metal.
I get sad when my metal-heroes cut their hair, but it's not like I'll stop liking their music or anything. Load and reLoad are my favorite albums for fuck's sake!

Posted by TheCreepingDeath on 12/14/04 @ 03:56 PM Post subject: Re: Bob Rock

Well, I don't want to get into that little fight above so I'll just give my opinion. Bob Rock brought out diversity in Metallica and guided them down a path to produce Black album (considerably one of the best metal albums) Load and ReLoad (which I personally love) and St.Anger was just another stage in which he helped the band members cooperate and deliver a record. By now, he's a good friend of the band also and knows them better than any other producer. So what's wrong with him?

no offence to metallica, but it seems all they wanna play is this new stuf like load reload and st anger and avoiding the old stuf. i thought you hated st anger lepermessiah??
no man.. i really cant hate any recording of metallica. look, i firts hated load and reload, then i disappear and -human, but, after a while, i started to like them. so, i think that those records have to be listened more than once, that's the only way to stand them.

i have to say that in the 80s metallica was slightly better but since 1990 metallica has had 3 studio albums that were expierimential, and there is no dening that load and reload arent exactly metal, though still good, and i have learned to accept st. anger but DOD & BNW killed it in every way. so my conclusion is that80s-metallica wins, 90-maiden wins, and in the 21st century maiden is winning but we are only half way thru. and i think bruce sounds better than jaymz now, because jaymz ruined his voice on the black album. it doesnt sound the same now.

ive said it before and ill say it again. i used to be the biggest metallica fan ever, i wouldnt even listen to critisism about st. anger. then i decided to buy a little album called The Number of the Beast. maiden didnt become my favorite band until i had 7 albums and rock in rio. then they pushed metallica aside. the more i got into other bands the more i realized that metallica was great, but not the best. i own and love every album with the exception of st. anger. this is an album i have swung back and forth on so many times i cant count. but now i am coming to the realization that with this album, metallica has lost thier identity. load and reload were still metallica, they still had that sound to them. not any more. metallica is like my 5th favorite band right now. they have to have a PERFECT album to bring them back to #2. the whole reason i say that is because maiden is, always has been, and always will be METAL. Metallica has changed everything they once stood for. i still like them, and puppets and justice remain my 2 favorite albums of all time, but i still pick maiden. not to mention that Brave New World and Dance of Death ABSOLUTLEY KILLED all doubt that maiden was back. metallica needs an album to do that, i dont care what style they use as long as it is well written.

Posted by BTHTDB82 on 12/13/04 @ 11:27 PM Post subject: Re: ReLoad...

I don't have the CD now but I bet I would like a lot more songs on it than I did before. I've stopped trying to judge the last three albums based on the fact that I always say Metallica as a thrash metal band before. Now I just think, wow that sounds cool so what if it's not Master of Puppets. I guess it's cause so much other shit out there really does sound like shit. I like Attitude and Better Than You. I was never a fan of Fuel. It sounds too cliche to me. Memory Remains is cool though. I don't know why everyone hates Marianne's voice so much although I do agree that hearing the crowd sing her part is a lot better. I never really listened to Low Man's Lyric until I saw them the last time which I was back in 1997 I think. They were playing at the Starlake Ampitheatre in Pennsylvania and it started to rain. James started to play the intro and as the song got going it was just kind of a haunting melody that seemed vugely familiar. I really liked the song though so when I got home I went through my CDs and found it and I've liked it ever since. I'm not really a fan of Unforgiven II though and Fixxxer I couldn't get through the intro, but i've been told it's really cool. Devil's Dance was alright too, maybe a little too slow but still good. Load and ReLoad aren't bad albums just not exactly what I expected to hear from Metallica and a little disappointing at the time they are growing on me for what they are.

I'm at my moms place, so I'm kinda bored...

I'm going to make some top 5 lists:
Best bands:
1) Metallica
2) Dream Theater
3) D-A-D
4) Opeth
5) Pink Floyd

Best albums:
1) Metallica - S&M
2) D-A-D - Soft Dogs
3) Tool - Lateralus
4) Neurosis - The Eye Of Every Storm
5) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon
(after them followes Load and ReLoad and pretty much all of Dream Theater's albums)

Best songs:
1) Metallica - The Outlaw Torn
2) Dream Theater - A Change Of Seasons
3) D-A-D - Grow Or Pay
4) Dream Theater- Learing To Live
5) Opeth - To Bid You Farewell

Best lyricists:
1) John Myung of Dream Theter
2) James Hetfield of The attack of the hungarian beavers (oh well :-/)
3) Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
4) Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater
5) who ever writes Toll's lyrics...

Best "simple song" songwriters (you know what i mean)
1) Cat Stevens
2) Paul McCartney (Beatles and solo)
3) Don McCleen
4) John Lennon (especially his solo work)
5) George Harrison

Singers/vocalists:
1) James LaBrie - Dream Theater
2) Michael Åkerfeldt - Opeth
3) Jesper Binzer - D-A-D
4) Maynard James Keanan - Tool
5) Ian Gillan - Deep Purple

Guitarists: (favourites, not necesarilly the best)
1) John Petrucci - Dream Teater
2) Jacob Binzer - D-A-D
3) Kirk Hammett - The Dubliners, duh!
4) Peter Lindgren/Micheal Åkerfeldt - Opeth (don't know who play the solos :-/)
5) Jimi Hendrix - The Jimi Hendrix Experience

Bassists:
1) John Myung - Dream Theater
2) Cliff Burton - Good charlote, of course, didn'tya know? ::)
3) Jason Newsted - sorry, no jokes for ya here...
4) Phil Lynnot - Thin Lizzy
5) John Entwistle - The Who

Drummers:
1) Mike Portnoy - Yep DT again!
2) Laust Sonne - D-A-D
3) John Bonham - Led Zeppelin
4) Ian Paice - Deep Purple
5) Keith Moon - The Who

Keyboardists:
1) Jordan Rudess - Dream Theater
2) Kevin Moore - Dream Theater
3) Derek Sherinian - Dream Theater
4) Steven Wilson - Porcupine Tree (It's his work with Opeth I count here though)
5) Freddie Mercury - Queen

ehh, what's left...
Worst bands:
1) Limp Bizcuit
2) Busted
3) Linkin Park
4) D12 and other crap, it's pretty much all the same
5) N-sink - it's mainly justin timberlake I hate

Are you bored? let me see your lists!

*you don't have to make them all, just the ones you feel like. Feel free to make you own topics too...

I posted this in the St. Anger is Shit thread, but I'll post it here too.
Ok I'm going to do this for the final time because I'm tired of debating this album. I'll try to do this as objectively as possible. First off I want to say that this album has some great things about it and also some bad things about it. As always the good cancels out the bad and vice versa making this album an ok album and not a great or shit one. It seems odd that this album is the most debated album out of Metallica's entire catalog. Load and ReLoad were not even debated as much as St. Anger. I think the reasoning for this lies behind that there are great things, ok things, and shitty things about the album. It's NOT an album that you either love or hate. To make my opinions founded I'm going to make this a review.

1. Frantic - I consider this one of the best songs over all on the album. It's pretty fast and the lyrics are pretty good. The only thing I don't really like about this song is the chorus. It's just a little bit too light and airy against the rest of the song. The guitar part during the chorus reminds me of the alternative soft rock shit that was coming out in the early 90's. The frantic-tick-tick-tick lines can kind of drive you nuts, but I don't mind them so much. The things I do like about this song is that Lars made a great move away from the backbeat he used on a lot of other songs. The other thing that really stands out to me is the cool guitar riff in the pre-chorus.

2. St. Anger - The song starts out so fucking great and then... it hits a wall of fluffy soft vocals and guitar playing. I can't stand that at all and that alone stops me from listening to the song usually. After it gets through that though it picks back up and gets moving again. The use of lyrics from Damage Inc., is interesting, and has me curious as to why James did so. If it wasn't for dead stop into softness on this song it'd be one of my favorites on the album.

3. Some Kind of Monster - A nice heavy guitar and bass groove start out the song. The riff slightly before and during the lyrics sounds more like something that Korn or some of the other newer bands might play. I can guess that this is where the nu-metal references brought up by others come in. But once the song moves towards the chorus it moves out of that back into a faster 16th note movement. Amazing how the drums are not right out in front in this song. It's nice to see Lars take a back seat for once. Supprisingly this song was one of the first ones I liked when I listened to the cd for the first few times. The off beat groove is definately too reminiciant of some nu-metal songs. However the song overall does not sound like nu-metal. It doesn't sound like usual Metallica either.

4. Dirty Window - Starts out with yet another sixteenth note pattern on the snare drum following the start and stop rythym of the guitar. This is followed by faster riffing on the guitar. Then it drags down to a slower pace moving back into the fast riffing. Suddenly the song goes straight into a staccato pre-chorus which I actually like, unlike the part in St. Anger. The new snare drum sound is a lot more noticeable in this song than any of the pervious. I like the topic of this song probably more than any other on the album.

5. Invisible Kid - The opening riff is fucking awesome, but it would have sounded even better with a normal snare drum sound. The sound of the snare is even more noticeable. The song is the same the whole way through without a bridge. This is ok, but definately not like most of the older Metallica songs. This song sounds a bit like newer material out from newer bands, a little more accesible if you will.

6. My World - If every song on the album were put into a blender and then taken in as one song, this would be it.

7. Shoot Me Again - Again this song sounds like a lot of the other songs. A opening part, fast riff, slow with soft singing, fast riff... kinda getting old here. At least the song sounds like some older metal songs though and not anything to do with nu-metal.

8. Sweet Amber - The coolest thing about this song is the bridge. Sweet Amber slows down at parts like the rest, but James' singing doesn't get soft like in the others thankfully. This seems to be my new favorite of the album.

9. The Unnamed Feeling - This song would have been right at home on Load. It sounds different from any of the songs on this album. Its not up and down like the others. It sounds pretty cool even if it's not that fast. Kind of reminds me of Until It Sleeps.

10. Purify - The snare drum kills this song. I'm not really a fan of the lyrics either. The vocal line sounds kind of cool though if the lyrics had just been something else.

11. All Within My Hands - Wow the opening is really cool. Why does it have to go slow? Kind of cool part near the middle where it drops off and then picks back up. Could have been a good solo in here somewhere. The end is um... interesting.

Final Thoughts - This album's lyrics definately sound as if they came from someone who went through therapy. A lot of touchy feely kinda stuff, which is fine by me. But almost every song on here had the same feel as Unforgiven/UnforgivenII. It was up and fast then down and slow then up and fast then down and slow. There's some great parts in there, but this album sounds like it was a debut record from a band that can play, but just didn't have the right ideas. It's nice to hear the drums back in some parts as Lars almost always seemed to want them out front. The snare drum isn't too bad until the 4th or 5th song. Looking at it positively though, I'm a drummer and no one ever uses their snare drum with the snare turned off. So it was cool to see someone actually use that, even though it sounds like shit in some songs. I can understand that James is trying to sing some parts, but dropping a fast part in the middle of no where to suddenly just start a soft part sounds like shit. I don't care who you are, it sounds like shit. There could have been solos but the songs sound ok without them. I don't follow trendy music so I don't know if the no solos thing is trendy or not and I don't really give a fuck unless Metallica were doing it to be trendy. As someone else said (I think it was Metal-Assmonkey) this album was a step in the right direction. There were no country songs on this motherfucker and everything at least sounded heavy when considered as whole songs. The let down seems to come from the fact that everyone saying that this album was going to be like old stuff. And I think Metallica did say that this album was going back to their roots. Again as someone else said, it didn't go back to their roots. The album sounds pretty cool, but overall it was another faliure in expirimentation. I think on the next album they need to tape Lars' mouth shut and quit fucking around and just make a metal album. Oh and they need to get Bob Rock the fuck out of there. I like this album as I said before. I don't hate it, but it could have been ten times better. Bob Rock is pussifying Metallica and Lars is helping to push the band in the wrong direction. So you may be asking why I think this album is good with all the shitty things about it. Well let's talk about bad things first. All the songs sounds pretty much the same. There's nothing to break up the more repetitive ones. Even if they didn't add solos they could have added a bridge in a few of the songs. Now the good things. The riffs are heavier than a lot of the riffs on Load and ReLoad. They didn't add any balads to this one. Even though they have classics like Fade to Black and Unforgiven, putting a balad on this album would have just made it worse. Lars moved off of using a back beat for every song. There weren't any silly song topics as there had been on Load and ReLoad.

why are you people saying black was bad it was actually pretty good but i agree on the load and reload, if cliff was still alive you would see bass to its max damage inc. was soooo good with cliff if only more songs were like that.

Here's what I think it would be like:

- Justice would definately be more heavily influenced by the bass. I recall Jason Newsted complaining at one point about how little emphasis there was on the bass in that album and I have to say that I agree. I think it might be because Jason was new to Metallica at the time so he had less influence over what kind of sound the album would generally take on... I always thought Jason was very talented and I lament how he seemed to be downplayed at times.

- I don't think the Black Album would have been very different, there was a pretty good amount of bass influence and the songs were thematically pretty Cliff-ish, though probably a bit more radio-friendly. I disagree about the filler-track comment, however, in regards to the Black Album. I don't think there was a single song I didn't like, which is more than I can say for Load and Reload.

- Speaking of the 'Loads, I don't think they would have happened. Something about how alternative they sounded would probably have been a turn-off for Cliff. There were some good tracks but I consider more than half to be filler. It was around this point where Jason bailed, and I believe Cliff might have done the same.

- And then ya got St. Anger... I don't know if Cliff would have stuck with 'Tallica for this long. It is hard to say if Cliff would have gone down this road or not, because on one hand he didn't give a fuck about what people thought of him, but St. Anger just doesn't seem his style (then again, St. Anger's sound wasn't typical of James or Kirk either, though I think it complimented Lars nicely).

Regardless, I think Metallica made a good choice with Rob Trujillo, he is a nice guy and plays a helluva bass (Anyone hear him solo yet? Amazing!). You have to wonder though, what might've been had Cliff still been around and Jason as well.

eye of the beholder and harvester of sorrow are others.

And actually if anything Kirk relied more heavily on pentatonic scales after the first four albums. nearly everything on load and reload is pentatonic, and most of the black album. since those solos are pretty slow they sound just like blues, because that's exactly what the pentatonic scale is used for. it's like the basics of lead guitar playing. if you don't know any theory or scales you can at least play a minor pentatonic scale.

i find a lot anecdotal :
first.

US army use Enter sandman to interrogation the terrorist in irak.

the name of picture on load and reload is "blood and semen III" et "piss and blood".

The song "fade to black" was written by James to express the sadness of the group after this last was done stolen all its material.

metallica was the group to download more in three years on nastper (I am not sure that is true).

the death of cliff is a great (sad) thing to create a part of the legend of metallica.

I know that in an ER's episode. There are 2 people was wounded during a metallica show in chicago. and he arrives at hospital to be heal.(in my opinion is a good representation of people's prejudice. you want to violence during a show, you must go to see metallica.)(do you know that it's inspires in real fact ?).

and if you know ohter anecdotal. You can tell me it
thank you !!!!

Maybe to you Load and Reload sonds different than the black album, but not to me. Even Metallica admit that the songs on load were the ones that didn't make the black album.
I still don't see how you think that Metallica setting the standards with those albums.
And as for st. anger, I guess that we'll just have to see what Metallica's new one will sound like.

first off,

there are just a few songs from load or reload that didnt make it in the black album as far as I know.and those songs were propably just a few main riffs for some songs, not finished ones.. the load and reload songs have been written as a whole, 30-40 songs have been written and the album was planned to be a double album, to be released together...but they chose to release them seperately, 1 by one.. and load-reload is sounding so much different than black album..totally different man..totally..anyways.

load and reload set some serious standarts, and I am actually surprised how you can be so unaware of it. 1st, they set a standart by showing as a thrash metal band, they can be a heavy metal band but still can make a bluesy, hard rocking music. 2nd, the song writing, the music style encouraged many artists, bands to make their own music, you can see that after load and reload many modern bands who make relatively harder music than normal mainstream pop-rock bands have popped out..creed, nickelback and many more.. they might have been making music before load era but metallicas music encouraged both bands and companies to do harder music but still being listenable for non-metal, non-rocker fans...3rd, load and reload has a so unique style actually, I still wonder how a hard rocking metal band can make such music...its so one of a kind..genius..so, they made us think and wonder, they showed the world that a metal band can be different, vary, progressive, free, modern, angry, and not scared to be soft when it's needed...all in one.

not enough setting standarts?? well, then good day.
one day you will see what I mean..

Posted by D-Man on 11/09/04 @ 10:17 PM Post subject: Re: RARE LIVE SONG

Rare live song... means it's been played before, soooo...

Has Struggle Within been played live before?

I'm gonna have to say that then, since there were rumors of it being played recently.

On another note, they need to play some more songs from other albums. Like a few nights ago, they played 8 Black Album songs or something like that. Why not pull something out from Load and ReLoad instead?

first off,

there are just a few songs from load or reload that didnt make it in the black album as far as I know.and those songs were propably just a few main riffs for some songs, not finished ones.. the load and reload songs have been written as a whole, 30-40 songs have been written and the album was planned to be a double album, to be released together...but they chose to release them seperately, 1 by one.. and load-reload is sounding so much different than black album..totally different man..totally..anyways.

load and reload set some serious standarts, and I am actually surprised how you can be so unaware of it. 1st, they set a standart by showing as a thrash metal band, they can be a heavy metal band but still can make a bluesy, hard rocking music. 2nd, the song writing, the music style encouraged many artists, bands to make their own music, you can see that after load and reload many modern bands who make relatively harder music than normal mainstream pop-rock bands have popped out..creed, nickelback and many more.. they might have been making music before load era but metallicas music encouraged both bands and companies to do harder music but still being listenable for non-metal, non-rocker fans...3rd, load and reload has a so unique style actually, I still wonder how a hard rocking metal band can make such music...its so one of a kind..genius..so, they made us think and wonder, they showed the world that a metal band can be different, vary, progressive, free, modern, angry, and not scared to be soft when it's needed...all in one.

not enough setting standarts?? well, then good day.
one day you will see what I mean..

No need to get mad.
We both like Metallica, it's just that you prefer new and I prefer old.
And as far as setting standards I tend to agree with these fans.

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=31690

Like it alot.

James pours everything he's going through into these songs.
"The Unnamed Feeling" "St.Anger" and "All Within My Hands" are prime examples of this.

I truly think that no one should make judgements about this album unless they see SKOM and WATCH Metallica almost come to an end.

It's pretty ironic how everyone said from Load and ReLoad that they wanted a return to the thrash days, then the most aggressive album comes out since Justice and people go crazy.

We KNOW there were no solos and lack of melody but just accept it for the album it is and if you want to hear what the possibility of solos in it would sound like listen to the versions that someone made with solos. Personally, I like it better without them!

Next thing, Lars snare sound. I like it ONLY for this album, but everyone should stop blaming everything on Lars, just watch the group collaboration in SKOM, sit down with headphones, relisten to the album in its entirety and say "St.Anger is a brutal album."

Case closed.

St. Anger is a masterpiece. Nothing less.

First time I heard it, 4.30 pm June 6th 2003, I hated it. I was really dissapointed. I thought the sounds sucked, the lack of solos were UNFORGIVEABLE, and the songs were repetitive and poorly written. As I recall I hated the lyrics.
Then there came a time, I was going through some tough shit and started to identify with the lyrics, especially St. Anger and All Within My Hands. I started listening a lot to it and realized some song were actually really beautiful in a weird sort of way. I found comfort in the extreme sound and heavyness the lack of solos didn't really bother me anymore. That whole album helped me express my feelings, it made me cry, and it helped me getting through the day.
Today it stands as a very important album in my life, and it is to some extend my favorite album. Load and reLoad just have the best music (and go ahead and flame me for that, I don't care)
If I didn't go through the mentioned sorrow and pain, I would probably never had identified with the lyrics and still hate it. I am sure if you go through what I've gone throgh, and you are not emotionally retarded, you will come to love St. Anger too!

Posted by scofield on 11/16/04 @ 11:56 PM Post subject: Re: spider chord

Not really, both load and reload are tuned half step down, are they not?

Metallica havnt played a couple off load and reload , (but could you blame them )couple off St anger , but The Frayed Ends Of Sanity has never been played in its full , i mean theyve played dirty window like 3 times !!!!!! and its shit , (no offence) come one play frayed ends of sanity .

You'd be surprised, there's more than a handful of songs WITHOUT wah solos.
Here is some stuff...this 'wah guide' is STRICTLY for solos on the STUDIO albums (not their live renditions), some songs you may think that have wah effects actually have other effects such as delay, flanger, etc. I've only done their first 5 albums (I didn't include Load and Reload because I'm not too familiar with a lot of those songs aside from the obvious like Fuel, Outlaw, Memory, etc). This may not be 100% correct but it's pretty close.

Songs with a wah solo:
Hit the Lights
Motorbreath
Anesthesia - pulling teeth (for bass, the whole song is practically a solo)
Phantom Lord
No Remorse
Fight Fire with fire
Trapped Under Ice
Battery
The Thing that should not be
Damage Inc.
...And Justice for All
Eye of the Beholder
Dyers Eve
Enter Sandman
Holier than Thou
Wherever I may Roam
Don't Tread on Me
My Friend of Misery
The Struggle Within

Songs WITHOUT a wah solo:
The Four Horsemen
Jump in the Fire
Whiplash
Seek and Destroy
Metal Militia
Ride the Lightning
Fade to Black
Escape (has delay in some parts, but no wah)
Creeping Death
The Call of Ktulu (has delay in some parts, but no wah)
Master of Puppets
Welcome Home - Sanitarium
Disposable Heroes (has wah in other parts of the song but not in the solo)
Leper Messiah
Orion
Blackened
One
The Shortest Straw
Harvester of Sorrow
The Frayed Ends of Sanity
To Live is to Die
Sad but True
The Unforgiven
Through the Never
Nothing Else Matters
Of Wolf and Man
The God that failed

IF you count the improv. at the end of "For Whom the Bell tolls" then yes, it has wah in it.

REMEMBER, the non-wah solos probably have a different effect to them...so if you think there's wah in it, there actually isn't.

I agree with this list except I am pretty sure that there is a wah used in Leper Messiah after the sweeping. I dont listen to load/reload enough to tell you exact songs, but Kirk did go a little wah crazy in the 90's. But live, you can expect him to touch the wah at least once a song.

They have played dyers eve several times this tour. They have not played all of to live is to die except for a shortened doodle on the justice tour. The songs they havent played are struggle within, escape, orion, frayed ends of sanity (full version, i think), dont tread on me and a handful of songs from load and reload.

To me Load and Reload sound like the out takes from the black album. No standards set there. The orchestra thing was interesting but like you said, Deep Purple did that way before and in my opinion better.
As for St.Anger, sounding like a bad garage band is not setting standards it just lowering them.

well the songs on load and reload are in totally different style than the black album.. and they set up ome serious standarts.. as for the st anger album, it doesnt matter how it sounds..its not necessary to sound good to set up standarts, we will see in the future.. its too early to talk about it.

well the songs on load and reload are in totally different style than the black album.. and they set up ome serious standarts.. as for the st anger album, it doesnt matter how it sounds..its not necessary to sound good to set up standarts, we will see in the future.. its too early to talk about it.

Maybe to you Load and Reload sonds different than the black album, but not to me. Even Metallica admit that the songs on load were the ones that didn't make the black album.
I still don't see how you think that Metallica setting the standards with those albums.
And as for st. anger, I guess that we'll just have to see what Metallica's new one will sound like.

Yeah, I love Load and Reload, too!!!
There is nothing wrong with those albums.
When I listen to those albums I´m in a different mood than when I listen to the first 4 albums. When I´m angry I kind of prefer the first 4 albums, they make me feel better then. When I listen to Load and Reload I seem to be more calm and balanced........

Oh yeah typhoon wanker you're right! I better stop loving Metallica, Megadeth, Opeth, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Lipid and all other metal bands, cause I think Load and ReLoad are two amazing pieces of music. I sure see the logic in that! ;)

HAHA! Typhoon wanker - I think Load and ReLoad kick ass also! Maybe I should never listen to metal again also right?

Posted by Metal-Assmonkey on 11/16/04 @ 11:52 PM Post subject: Re: spider chord

actaully, thingy is in DROPPED D, Sad But true is in D (whole step down) load and reload are Eb (half step down)
st. anger is in Dropped C, and invisible kid is in slipknot tunig which is G#. so there is a complete recprd of tallica downtuning.

LOAD was my introduction to Metallica. I bought it right when it came out and since this day Metallica is my favourite band.
I've listened to LOAD a million times (and afterwards ReLOAD), but when I came across the "old stuff" (the Black Album at that time) I didn't like it that much. At first.
But after listening to it more often I figured out that this is the REAL SHIT!
At that time I was amazed by songs like NEM, Sandman, Hero, Bleeding Me, Memory Remains and so on. And I HATED the shit from Kill Them All...
But again... not for a long time ;)
I got more and more into the first albums and now I think that my "first-loves" LOAD and ReLOAD aren't as good as AJFA, MOP or the Black Album... but I still love them and there are songs on it which really stand out and belong to Metallica's best ones: Memory Remains, Outlaw Torn, Hero of the day and so on...

So what I'm trying to say: I guess everyone who tells us now how shitty this or that album is and how he hates this or that song will sooner or later figure out that not only Metallica goes through musical progressions.
All of us go through these changes. Just take the song you love to listen to right at the moment. I bet next week you will have another one. That's a mini-progression in my eyes and so everyone should take care what he (or she) is writing here. Perhaps you come across LOAD in the next months and you figure out that - you like it!

(or I figure out that I actually like St Anger :) )
That's funny. My storyy is exactly opposite. I was most into the old stuff in the beginning I thought Ride, master and Justice were the best albums, don't quite remember why... Now it's Load and ReLoad.
And I really do love St. Anger btw.

Posted by Pushead on 11/17/04 @ 02:19 PM Post subject: Re: spider chord

actaully, thingy is in DROPPED D, Sad But true is in D (whole step down) load and reload are Eb (half step down)
st. anger is in Dropped C, and invisible kid is in slipknot tunig which is G#. so there is a complete recprd of tallica downtuning.

In addition to the ones listed above:

The God that Failed is in Eb (but not Don't Tread on Me like the tab book says).

No Leaf Clover is in Eb.

I Disappear is in Eb.

Killing Time is in Eb.

All of the Motorhead covers are in Eb.

Everything on the first disk of Garage Inc is in Eb (except for Sabbra Cadabra which is D, and Free Speach for the Dumb and The More I see which are C#).

Devil's Dance is in D.
The Small Hours is in D.

Minus Human is in dropped D down a half step ("Dropped C#")

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure all of the Ramones covers are in C#.

Alright, I'm gonna put my foot in it, but Load and Reload are my favourite albums. There's a lot of real hardcore early-'Tallica fans around here, and I think I just condemned myself.

Actually there are very few of us here who don't appreciate the load albums, and for some members they are the favourite too :D

Lol, im a hardcore early Metallica fan. Its not that i dont like Load, i just think it isnt worth mentioning compared too all of the albums released from Kill em All through toom And Justice for all. If they were by a different band i think id like Load, Reload, St Anger etc, alot more cos' by the time The Black Album came out, i had a stereotype of Metallica, i had expectations and they didnt meet them although they were goiod albums, i didnt like the dramatic change and difference they had gone through. Nah you havent put your foot in it, we are here too discuss Metallica and Load and Reload were by Metallica, so its a welcomed response lol. I agree with that dude about Lars, he is funny but he also has that arrogant, ignorant sarchastic side iw as mentioning earlier. Sometimes he is hilarious, sometimes hes just not and acts like an asshole lol. Ahwell hes a great drummer and hes not always an asshole so i cant complain. Cliff ability too ehad bang for three hours straights whilst playing legendary bass is godly i.m.o, thats pretty hard too, must of had a strong neck :p

Favourite member: Well, I'd have to say James and Kirk eaqually, but in different ways. Jmaes is the front man, his voice is just incredible and no-one i've ever heard can match it for this genre of music. Gotta love the way James says "Yeah" and "Y'know", they are his trademark words... :D

Kirk just rocks! Gotta love those solos and well, him! If only he werent married...comin at ya Kirk! :-* ;) In my DREAMS! Ahem...sorry all...

Lars is cool but despite his intelligence can really get on my nerves at times...no doubt he's the co-founder of Metallica and so is a legend but between him and James I know whos autograph I want more.

Rob...damn! Well I've never seen anyone play bass like that, the way he can play songs on bass with his fingers! Kick ass!

Fave album: Ah...I dont have a fave but as mentioned above, I love Load and Reload, Puppets and damn...all of them... though it has to be said that Black is the most comercial and thus not the best. Then there is St Anger... I didn't like it to start with but I saw the Doco "Some Kind Of Monster" and I'll tell you now, Metallica deserves every fan's respect for St Anger despite its differences from their old school stuff which was better. So much went into getting that album made, so GO METALLICA!

Fave song: I dont have one, I have like 20...No leaf clover, nothing else matters, Mamma said, Master of Puppets Harvester and Seek to name a few...

whats wrong with load and reload?

its in one of the titles of the song: (king) NOTHING

I know a lot of people who don't like Load and Reload, I just want to know some reasons.

Oh yeah typhoon wanker you're right! I better stop loving Metallica, Megadeth, Opeth, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Lipid and all other metal bands, cause I think Load and ReLoad are two amazing pieces of music. I sure see the logic in that! ;)

i am a huge metallica nerd, and i think that load and reload are horrible, terrible, and awfull. i still bought them, and all the singles from them, because i am a collector dork, but i never, ever listen to them. i tried to a couple of times, but i couldn't make it all the way through. too painfull. as far as i am concerned, they make St. Anger sound very good.

I think it's thier two best albums, so I can't see what's wrong with it. Yes it sucks that they cut thier hair, James voice didn't sound thrashy anymore (though I personally think his voice was at it's peak around Load) and it had a bluesy feeling.
I love it.

I don't think it's full of "fillers". In fact, I think Justice and Black album had more "fillers" than Load and ReLoad.

I do have a soft spot for Reload, 'cos it was in fact my introduction to Metallica, and I fell hard and fast. From there on I went backwards thru their albums, wanting to know more music from this amazing band.

I've now got all their albums, been to concerts etc., and now, knowing their old stuff, I can understand why old fans were at first shocked at the change of style, but let's face it: There's nothing wrong with Load and Reload, they're two more awesome albums from an awesome band!! 8)

if you dont consider load, reload you better do...they set many standards with those albums.. and after deep purple they played with orchestra as a heavymetal band..thrash songs with orchestra...many inspired and encouraged cos of it...and now they are setting standarts with st anger...so it might be that you are not fond of these new standarts they are setting up, but it doesnt change the fact.

To me Load and Reload sound like the out takes from the black album. No standards set there. The orchestra thing was interesting but like you said, Deep Purple did that way before and in my opinion better.
As for St.Anger, sounding like a bad garage band is not setting standards it just lowering them.

1)black and justice
2)garage inc
3)kill
4)puppetz lightning
5) s&m
6)load and reload
7)st anger
8)live shit

Posted by metallipath on 09/17/04 @ 10:40 AM Post subject: Re: Load Vs Reload

i like load and reload more than the black album...

I think it's thier two best albums, so I can't see what's wrong with it. Yes it sucks that they cut thier hair, James voice didn't sound thrashy anymore (though I personally think his voice was at it's peak around Load) and it had a bluesy feeling.
I love it.

I don't think it's full of "fillers". In fact, I think Justice and Black album had more "fillers" than Load and ReLoad.

thats one of the shittiest things i ever heard,if u r going to tell me that black album isnt that good and u tell that reload is better than black album,leave justice alone,its too good for discussion....u better stop listening to metal,its about time,love pop.

1) black and justice
2) garage inc
3) kill
4) ride and master
5) S&M
6) load and reload
7) St anger
and hopefully later on today... Live shit:D

st. anger, black album, MOP, RTL, AJFA, S+M, KEA, Load and reload on the same day,live shit and garage inc. and i love it all :)

Posted by on 04/05/06 @ 10:51 PM Post subject: Metallica Demo Compilation

DOWNLOAD:

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0YX6QQE326NG013Y1VCGX2Y0IS

METALLICA DEMO COMPILATION

1981 - 1983 - "Early Demo Tapes"

1981/1982 - "Metal Massacre Demos"
Featuring the first press of Hit the Lights, with Lloyd Grant, and the second press of Hit the Lights, both on different editions of the "Metal Massacre" compilations.

1982 - "Ron's Garage Demo"
A band jam session in March 1982, featuring Let it Loose & Sucking My Love
Track 9 is a bonus, a 15 minute recording of a jam between James & Lars.

1982 - "Power Metal Demo"
Recorded in Ron McGoveny's garage in April 1982.

1982 - "No Life 'til Leather Demo"
The infamous demo, recorded in August 1982, that gave the band their underground fame after quickly spreading.

1983 - "Megaforce Demo"
Recorded in March 1983, the first demo to feature Cliff Burton on bass.

1983 - "Ride the Lightning Demos"

Recorded in September 1983
"When Hell Freezes Over" was later named "The Call of Ktulu."
Trapped Under Ice demo is of unknown origin, but sounds very similar to studio version.

1985 - "Master of Puppets Demos"

Recorded in August 1985
Features versions of songs with and without lyrics
Welcome Home (Sanitarium) has different lyrics all together.

1987 - 1988 - "...And Justice for All Demos"

1987/1988 - "Rough Justice Demos"
Recorded in James' basement in November 1987, & One on One Studios in January 1988

1987/1988 - "Other AJFA Demos"
A few assorted demos from unknown recording sessisons.

1990 - 1991 - "Metallica Demos"

Recorded in Lars' basement in August & October of 1990
Holier Than Thou recorded at One on One Studios in June 1991

1994 - 1995 - "Load and ReLoad Demos"

Recorded at Plant Studios between November 1994 and December 1995
Compilation of song demos from Fan Can #1 and Fan Can #3 discs.

2001 - "Presidio Session Demos"

Recorded in 2001
None of these songs were ever released
Clips featured in Metallica.com's 'Jump in the Studio' and the Some Kind of Monster movie

Firstly: Compare with Thingy
Some songs which are good\better

Secondly: Compare with Friend of Misery
The number dwindles

Thirdly: Compare with Trapped Under Ice
Maybe 3 or 4 songs

Forth: Compare with Master
Maybe 1

Finally: Compare with One
'Nuff said

Load\Reload doesnt compare to their older stuff. Good yes, but RTL, AJFA, MOP and KEM shit all over it

In fact they Shart all over it

I've read lots of your posts, One and it seems like you think your opinions are always pure fact...

I'd compare the old songs with songs from the load era then:
Firstly: Compare with Unforgiven II:
some songs are good/better.

Secondly: Compare with Fuel:
there are no songs that gives you a greater energy kick

Thirdly: Compare with Bleeding me:
Fade, MOP and One are better, but that's it

Fourth: Compare with Fixxxer
Only Fade is as good/better

And finally: Compare with Outlaw:
"'nuff said!"

KEA, RTL, MOP and AJFA doesn't compare to the load era. Good yes, but Load and ReLoad shit all over it.

If this post made you just a little but angry I think you can see what I mean ;)

i am a huge metallica nerd, and i think that load and reload are horrible, terrible, and awfull. i still bought them, and all the singles from them, because i am a collector dork, but i never, ever listen to them. i tried to a couple of times, but i couldn't make it all the way through. too painfull. as far as i am concerned, they make St. Anger sound very good.
i dont have load, but i have every other metallica album including reload, and i got st. anger and reload as birthday presents. So first i listened to st. anger, which i liked, then i listened to reload, and i didnt like it. So then later i tried listening to it again and i couldnt. Finally, about a year later, i put reload again in my cd player and i actually kinda liked it. so what what first happened to me is what happened to u, but i guess as time wore on, i appreciated it more. And maybe the fact that i got the other metallica albums in between that time helps.

LOAD was my introduction to Metallica. I bought it right when it came out and since this day Metallica is my favourite band.
I've listened to LOAD a million times (and afterwards ReLOAD), but when I came across the "old stuff" (the Black Album at that time) I didn't like it that much. At first.
But after listening to it more often I figured out that this is the REAL SHIT!
At that time I was amazed by songs like NEM, Sandman, Hero, Bleeding Me, Memory Remains and so on. And I HATED the shit from Kill Them All...
But again... not for a long time ;)
I got more and more into the first albums and now I think that my "first-loves" LOAD and ReLOAD aren't as good as AJFA, MOP or the Black Album... but I still love them and there are songs on it which really stand out and belong to Metallica's best ones: Memory Remains, Outlaw Torn, Hero of the day and so on...

So what I'm trying to say: I guess everyone who tells us now how shitty this or that album is and how he hates this or that song will sooner or later figure out that not only Metallica goes through musical progressions.
All of us go through these changes. Just take the song you love to listen to right at the moment. I bet next week you will have another one. That's a mini-progression in my eyes and so everyone should take care what he (or she) is writing here. Perhaps you come across LOAD in the next months and you figure out that - you like it!

(or I figure out that I actually like St Anger :) )

I think lars' drumming rocked early on, especially hit the lights. do not ask why i just thought it was a good piece fo drumming. It definately kept going up to TBA then kind of faded a bit during load and reload but it was still good. His drumming on st. anger whilst good. I didnt really like it.

oh and FYB is not funny AT ALL. infact please tell me where you live so i can come and beat you to death using a board with a nail in it.

Posted by motorbreath83 on 11/27/04 @ 11:17 PM Post subject: Re: James Voice

I'm a classic Metallica guy, so it's like a rule that i hate anything after "...And Justice for All" At least thats what they say. His voice was very bluesy on load and reload, but it wasn't metal. I think that "one" was when James hit his best. His voice was deep and powerful, the song was realy moving, infact, that whole album was basicaly made by the growling anger of James' voice. I will say, however, that "Mamma Said" was a good song, and very bold. Lots of people hated metallica for realeasing the Black album, they called it weak. But to release a song that was more or less pure country took balls.

well its nothing new to discover lars isnt the greatest drummer but i actually feel that his drumming this tour hasnt been this good since the black tour. His increased his endurance by running again and giving up smoking. They are playing very challenging songs which in some case havent been played before. From the two shows i saw lars was spot on and very tight however o agree he can be quite inconsisten at times. i think that his drumming on st anger was very solid, a little repitive but awesome all the same. I hope he incorporates the style of drumming from puppets or justice on their new album. But im still glad he started using double kick on st anger. After all black,load and reload did not really have much double bass at all ;D

Posted by Master Of Orion on 04/30/06 @ 08:53 PM Post subject:

Kill All The Lightning Puppets with Justice for Black with a load and reload and lots of garage anger.

That should be it.

Posted by scofield on 11/23/04 @ 06:32 PM Post subject: Re: mustaine vs. hammett

Uh I was talking to Disposable_INC, but okay. The guys I listed are good at showing off and that's it? Huh? Bill Frisell, John Scofield, John Abercrombie, Pat Metheny, Steve Howe, Mike Stern, Eric Krasno, Trey Anastasio, Dicket Betts, Warren Haynes, Marc Ribot, Charlie Christian, Wes Montgomery, Robert Randolph, Django Reinhardt, John McLaughlin, Grant Green, Kenny Burrell, Frank Zappa, Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp, Al Schnier, and Chuck Garvey probably all play slower than Kirk does, so check your facts. Most of those guitarists can actually play more than one type of music, including metal, also, Load and Reload aren't metal, so I think rock is fair game.

Posted by Master Of Orion on 05/05/06 @ 08:33 PM Post subject:

Dude, you must be in the wrong thread. We're talking about Kerry King... Not the snare drum on load and reload.

Posted by on 04/07/06 @ 01:47 PM Post subject:

burn load and reload, terrible album covers.

you guyz were awesome on the 1980's , the black album was ok but what the hell were you guys thinking after that. load and reload :o why were there no solos on st anger when you have one of the best guitarists in the world???? the past decade has been disappointing get back to what you were doin (i.e mop, ajfa), you still got your talent :-/ i blame bob rock for taking you mainstream >:( WTF happened???????wtf????!!! you guys are my favourites but why should i dish out money for YOUR albums when i can get better ones (i.e children of bodom). now i know people on here will be pissed at this post and flame me but it has to be said!!!! we would all rather see more albums like ajfa than the dire reload!!! and at least get a decent recording sound because with the amount of money you have their is no reason to be putting out a sh*t sounding album like st anger >:( yo kirk sup man i play a kh-2 as well, james yu have the best vocals in metal, larz ur awesome on drums and kick dave mustainne in the balls for me ;D , but rob u belong in the zoo you ape. god luck and put out decent albums in the future ;) all members on this board have to come to terms and respect that everything stated in this post is my opinion, like oit or don't thats cool peace out :)

Posted by Lil_Newsted on 05/05/06 @ 06:31 PM Post subject:

Wow it's a big Debate, awesum.

Kerry is just speaking his mind. He's got alot to say, they were in my hometown about 2 years ago, and I met Tom in a bookstore and he went on to say, "hey metallica is still good but this Saint Anger is shit." It is. It went from being the best album to the most returned album out there.

The biggest part was the snare drum. I still love Metallica, I really do, but being a fan, bring back vintage thrashy Metallica. Load and reload is good, many good songs on each, and I'm glad they did record those albums cause it showed their influences through and through. A country chorus, shit that's unheard of in metal.

James, where are the nasty vocals and capitol punishment lyrics.

Posted by on 04/04/06 @ 10:59 PM Post subject:

Until It Sleeps
Ain't My Bitch
2 x 4
The House That Jack Built
The Outlaw Torn
King Nothing
Bleeding Me

Fuel
The Memory Remains
Fixxxer
Where The Wild Things are

^ from Load and Reload

Posted by on 04/06/06 @ 04:12 PM Post subject:

what a stupid name for a song. the song names on load and reload are pathetic. mama said? good one, james.

Posted by on 04/05/06 @ 05:14 PM Post subject:

That would make sense if we were talking about garth Brooks. load and Reload are hard rock albums.

Posted by on 04/10/06 @ 06:51 PM Post subject:

what a stupid name for a song. the song names on load and reload are pathetic. mama said? good one, james.

If maybe Metallica were 19 years old wrting Reload maybe they would've kicked their own ass, too bad they were in their mid thirties.

Posted by on 04/05/06 @ 06:12 AM Post subject:

Its not sloppy as such, they just went for a tinny sound in keeping with the anger thingy. It isn't the best sounding or produced but it has its place and it kicks the arse right out of Load and Reload's polished mainstream "rawk" nonsense

Posted by on 04/01/06 @ 01:23 AM Post subject:

to me there is only two types of music, good and bad. i think kea, rdl, mop, ...ajfa were GREAT and all the others that came after were terrible. i can't stand the black album, load and reload because it's rock, i can't stand them because they suck. i used to somewhat like st.anger but that was when i haven't heard anything else except mainstream. now i hate this album with a passion and consider it as embarassment for metallica.
Yeah, listening to anything other than metal would just be plain gay :roll:

wow,you're such a nerd. two years back everyone hated load, reload and st.anger. now everyone that doesn't like them is a hater that only likes thrash metal, despite me saying at the debut of my post for christ's sake that i don't hate these albums because they aren't thrash metal. you better find a better excuse as to why we don't like these albums other than it's not thrash because it's getting really old, that's the only excuse people have nowadays. i, like many others have broad musical likings. just because i don't like load and reload and st.stinker doesn't make me totally indifferent to other types of music, not that there is anything wrong with that. afterall, you listen to music for yourself, not for others. i see so many idiots in topics like who's the better guitarist on the net that pick the same as everyone like there was no different answer. sorry, but music is totally subjective and that's the truth, no matter how stupid you think it is because you like to think your opinion is absolute and the world revolves about you. just pick your favorites. now you'll probably laugh at this. well do it, i don't care as long as you read it which is the whole point of posting on a message board.

Posted by on 04/01/06 @ 03:07 PM Post subject:

to me there is only two types of music, good and bad. i think kea, rdl, mop, ...ajfa were GREAT and all the others that came after were terrible. i can't stand the black album, load and reload because it's rock, i can't stand them because they suck. i used to somewhat like st.anger but that was when i haven't heard anything else except mainstream. now i hate this album with a passion and consider it as embarassment for metallica.
Yeah, listening to anything other than metal would just be plain gay :roll:

wow,you're such a nerd. two years back everyone hated load, reload and st.anger. now everyone that doesn't like them is a hater that only likes thrash metal, despite me saying at the debut of my post for christ's sake that i don't hate these albums because they aren't thrash metal. you better find a better excuse as to why we don't like these albums other than it's not thrash because it's getting really old, that's the only excuse people have nowadays. i, like many others have broad musical likings. just because i don't like load and reload and st.stinker doesn't make me totally indifferent to other types of music, not that there is anything wrong with that. afterall, you listen to music for yourself, not for others. i see so many idiots in topics like who's the better guitarist on the net that pick the same as everyone like there was no different answer. sorry, but music is totally subjective and that's the truth, no matter how stupid you think it is because you like to think your opinion is absolute and the world revolves about you. just pick your favorites. now you'll probably laugh at this. well do it, i don't care as long as you read it which is the whole point of posting on a message board.

St. stinker OMG hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that's sooooooooooo original dude hahahahahahaha st. stinker!!!!! hahahaha

Posted by on 04/12/06 @ 10:00 PM Post subject:

Haha. Its so preteen how you're all bagging country like its the new plague. Ever heard of Johnny Cash? Steve Earl? Lynyrd Skynrd? Theres tons of country that rocks. Country/rock is likely one of my favorite crossover genres ever since its so fucking unique....country is a little like pop, but with instruments and actual talent.

I don't really like it, but I've seen enough of it to know better than to stereotype it.

Lastly, not liking a style or genre isn't enough reason to say it sucks.

I agree, Johnny Cash fucking owns. Although Skynyrd are southern rock, not country. :wink:

Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennigs are all great country artists.

But load and reload's vocals weren't country at all. The song itself were a little bluesy, but not bad. And it was hard rock, which isn't metal obviously, so that's also not as good for metalica. :(

St. Anger at least returned them to metal music.

Posted by on 04/12/06 @ 05:18 AM Post subject:

Flesh, we here at encymet have played host to people such as you many times. We seem to be a magnet for poor lonely souls who seem to be missing one to many chromosomes. It's a shame really that you people manage to wind up here on a METALLICA board and seem to think that because you said something, that it is law. I have long since given up any hope for the continued survival of mankind when we have people such as you stealing our oxygen.

As Bangs pointed out, your opinions are fine, great, and? What do you want us - Metallica fans to the core - to say when you blast their songs? For the love of shit mate, wake up! Now for me to set down some...
constructive... criticism.

i'm so glad cliff burton joined, because it would suck if all metallica was "kill 'em all" who is to me, nothing more than an average thrash album with great solos.

Hang on just one minute.... You are not saying that Cliff Burton joined after Kill Em All, and that's what made Metallica better? You sir, are a moron.

good job picking posts from another thread, you're a real winner.

As are you with pure magic such as that.

you posers need to start listening to the song and shut up. my post made perfect sense. the drums are terrible on that song and it DOES sound like someone farting.

Posers? Moi? We have all listened to that song until our ears have bled. We know how the drums are, what is your point? and stressing that something DOES sound like farting is great... Your point? Who the hell cares what you say?

what a stupid name for a song. the song names on load and reload are pathetic. mama said? good one, james.

I'm sure he's quite happy to name his songs... He has more money than you... Do you honestly think that he cares if you think his song titles are wimpy? Hell, the gutair he played it on is probably worth more than you are.

Just give it up, please!

Posted by Razorback on 05/04/06 @ 10:25 PM Post subject:

what a stupid name for a song. the song names on load and reload are pathetic. mama said? good one, james.

YOU are fucking pathetic! Fuck sakes, it is about his mother's passing, and the important words that she said to him. What is it supposed to be called? You must be one of those retards who call Load country metal. Shit there is a lot of guys like you on these threads. Where is all the hardcore Met fans?

Posted by on 04/01/06 @ 03:16 AM Post subject:

i can't stand the black album, load and reload because it's rock

Posted by on 03/31/06 @ 09:19 PM Post subject:

to me there is only two types of music, good and bad. i think kea, rdl, mop, ...ajfa were GREAT and all the others that came after were terrible. i can't stand the black album, load and reload because it's rock, i can't stand them because they suck. i used to somewhat like st.anger but that was when i haven't heard anything else except mainstream. now i hate this album with a passion and consider it as embarassment for metallica.

Posted by on 04/05/06 @ 05:02 PM Post subject:

i hate bob for the fact that he produced the black album which would become mainstream and so much money that metallica abandonned their thrash roots. it's a good thing that they're back in thrash now.
You're an idiot, if Bob Rock had've produced AJFA would you still hate him?

yes. i need more thrash metallica, none of these slow country albums bs like load and reload.

Posted by on 03/31/06 @ 10:41 PM Post subject:

to me there is only two types of music, good and bad. i think kea, rdl, mop, ...ajfa were GREAT and all the others that came after were terrible. i can't stand the black album, load and reload because it's rock, i can't stand them because they suck. i used to somewhat like st.anger but that was when i haven't heard anything else except mainstream. now i hate this album with a passion and consider it as embarassment for metallica.
Yeah, listening to anything other than metal would just be plain gay :roll:

Posted by on 04/06/06 @ 07:47 AM Post subject:

i hate bob for the fact that he produced the black album which would become mainstream and so much money that metallica abandonned their thrash roots. it's a good thing that they're back in thrash now.
You're an idiot, if Bob Rock had've produced AJFA would you still hate him?

yes. i need more thrash metallica, none of these slow country albums bs like load and reload.
But he didnt white those songs, Metallica did, have you finished beeing a fuckwit yet

Posted by on 04/02/06 @ 11:45 PM Post subject:

well i listened to st.anger and it isn't as bad as i remembered it to be. still, no cohesion in most of the songs. listenable, but not much more than that. a good alternative when i have nothing else to listen. some cool riffs, but that's about it. the vocals are absolutely terrible. better than anything they put out since ...and justice for all, that's for sure. at least this is thrash metal and this is heavy. don't get me wrong, i love rock but come on, metallica is and will always be thrash metal in my eyes. the drums that everyone and their mothers criticized, i find them to be pretty good when used right, it adds a more heavy feeling to the album. the problem is that it's always the same sound you get. still, i find "sweet amber" to be pretty damn good. i stand on my opinion that the black album, load and reload are shitty albums though. i listened to them not a long time ago, and just couldn't them into them at all.

Posted by on 04/01/06 @ 02:36 AM Post subject:

Thrashy and heavy with solos. That's my opinion. But always melodic. Not like Load,that can't be done after St. Anger. I don't think they want to go through the same shit they went through when Load and ReLoad came out

Posted by on 04/06/06 @ 03:57 PM Post subject:

Man, you just don't get it. Playing music isn't just about playing one type of music only and constricting yourself to making songs that only fit a certain criteria. Get real. Music is about expressing yourself and feeling free. It's about sitting with your bandmates in a room and playing whatever the fuck feels right, no matter if it's thousand miles an hour heavy metal riffs or slow chords on an acoustic guitar. James and the boys just aren't metalheads, they are musicians with interests in all types of music. Yes, their metal core came from bands like Sabbath and Motorhead, but they were also influenced heavy by Lynryd Skynryd, Bob Seger, Queen, The Ramones, The Misfits, BOC, and a whole big variety of other bands. All musicians come from a whole variety of backgrounds, and this can be seen in Jason with EchoBrain, a completely different thing from Metallica, and in someone like Cory Taylor from Slipknot, who also has a band called Stone Sour, which is 180 degrees from Slipknot (I know, many in here don't like Slipknot because they are nu-metal, etc. However, I'm just trying to make a point).

And Load/Reload, etc was about doing something different and exploring a new genre of music, with songs like Mama Said, Hero of the Day, Bleeding Me, etc, while still throwing in some more heavy songs like Devil's Dance, Fuel, King Nothing, etc. You shouldn't limit a band and put parameters on their playing, saying that they are only a heavy metal band and that is the only type of music they are allowed to make. This is what the music industry tries to do to bands, wanting bands to re-create their 1st album over and over again, never accepting of bands branching into something different. The Beatles would have been murdered by fans and the industry today, because each one of their albums was completely new and different, totally at odds with the previous album.

It's awesome that you love thrash Metallica, because I do too, but appreciate the fact that many in here and millions around the world also love the rock Metallica of the 90s. Man, I'm just saying respect the fact that James and the boys are musicians and they may want to try something new and creative. Don't just say it sucks because it's not heavy and not in line with MOP or RTL. Bands change and go through different stages in their lives after 23 yrs and 10 albums, because if they didn't, I believe that each individual in the band would get bored of playing the same stuff over and over again.

what are you talking about? metallica had classical music and classic rock influences in their earlier albums, cliff burton introduced the band to these genres. why should i respect the band for albums like load and reload and the black album? these albums sucked. you know what i think? i think metallica was a good band in the beginning and became GREAT when cliff burton joined. when he left, it wasn't the same. there was no bass in ...and justice for all and after there was no metal. james followed a therapy and i think he's okay now. st.anger had some awesome songs like sweet amber and the unnamed feeling. this "they're not thrash metal anymore" is outdated and bs. how many times had the band said st.anger would be ride the lightning 2, master of puppets 2, ...and justice for all 2? i think up to st.anger they were still affected by cliff's death. jason newstead was never accepted in the group. they are better with cliff burton's death now it seems, robert trujillo doesn't seem like the "guy to do the job" at all. he seems to be a part of metallica now.