Posts for 'heavy metal'

how is that possible when iron maiden is power metal and was formed in 1976?

power metal usually consists of fantasy/medieval style lyrics and complex guitarwork and the guitars are usually constantly harmonizing with each other. the drums in power metal are usually subdued and provide the backdrop for the music moreso than thrash.

It was taken from rockhard magazine 1998 some issue, an exclusive interview with ron mcgowney.

as for the iron maiden and power metal issue;

Iron Maiden is a heavy metal band from east London, England, which was formed in 1975 by bassist Steve Harris, formerly a member of Gypsy's Kiss and Smiler.

Iron Maiden is considered to be one of the most influential bands in the heavy metal music genre. They have also inspired other sub-genres of heavy metal music, including power metal and speed metal. One example of their far reaching influence is that, among others, the thrash metal band Slayer list Iron Maiden as one of their major influences, as do the more pop-punk band Sum 41.

Iron maiden influinced the genre, not played..maiden is heavy metal.

please refer to this link in order to have info about power metal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_metal

Posted by metalsuzan on 12/13/04 @ 03:00 PM Post subject: Re: Parents...

Hahaha, now I got something to say, hey,hey

I am a "metal-mom"!!! I love metallica, I love heavy metal, I love loud heavy metal and I love headbanging! ;D
Nico (my 7-year old son) loves metallica as well, but Michel (my 12-year old son) doesn´t like it when I turn my metallica-music loud. I hope he´s not becoming a rapper or something (oooh!), but I guess, I have to be tolerant! :P

overall, i think it is too close to fucking choose. both are heavy metal legends, both have good guitarists, and insane fucking bassists. i think it comes down to what you like better for singer, bruces high-pithed operatic vocals or jaymz' low growl. as for the drummer, nicko has more energy and lars uses more double kicking, so it is a hard choice there. like i said, it is too hard to choose between these heavy metal legends. anyways, in the metal hall of fame, there are people from both bands in the top five, in almost every catagory too. jaymz is in there for best rythm guitar and he is a good singer, bruce is one of the best singers ever, kirk and dave are both guitar gods, cliff and steve are the 2 best bassists to walk the earth, and nicko and lars are the best drummers ever, right behind john bonam. so do you get me, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CHOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hm, hm, oh well, I´m a mother as some of you might know and I love love love metallica. And I certainly don´t think that heavy metal is a bad influence or something! My kids know metallica because of me and they know that I love their music. Some of their friends think it`s cool that my kids have a mother that listens to heavy metal real loud, haha! Some parents I know might think:"oh, what a bad influence!" Well, I don´t give a fuck. And if they tell me that straight into my eyes I will give them the right answer.

And to A.Henn: You are right that there are a lot of shitty parents doing a shitty job educating their kids. You are right! But I gotta tell you one thing: It´s damn fucking hard to raise and educate children. I never thought this could be so hard, really!!! .....I even start to understand things that my parents did that I never understood before I was a parent myself! I probably don´t do the same mistakes that my parents did, but I probably do other mistakes, because I´m human and I do mistakes. Probably my kids will blame me for my mistakes some day. That´s okay, I guess. But who doesn`t do mistakes??? I hope I won´t do too many mistakes. I do my best, but I´m not perfect and all the other parents aren`t perfect either. Most of the parents try to do their best ( at least the parents I know )and they love their kids and they do mistakes.........but they love you!!! ;)

Posted by BTHTDB82 on 12/20/04 @ 01:17 PM Post subject: Re: Power Chords?

What are the common chords (non-power) for heavy metal music? Include barre chords if you know any.

Posted by BTHTDB82 on 11/26/04 @ 06:55 PM Post subject: Re: The Outside World

I work 8-5 M-F and when I'm not doing that I'm either listening to or playing heavy metal.

Posted by drumsteen on 12/09/04 @ 12:07 AM Post subject: Re: Albums you must own

true but i wouls still classify them as metal or heavy metal. There are alot softer bands who are regarded as rock who fit in that category.

Well, anyways, I like the RHCP! Okay, I like heavy metal more, but I also like their kind of funky music. I saw them live last year. They really rock! :D

I like Metallica metal - is that a genre?

It surely is.. theres 'heavy metal', 'thrash metal'....and theres 'metallica'.

Metallica alone is a genre...

Posted by metalsuzan on 11/29/04 @ 05:23 PM Post subject: Re: The Outside World

aaar, bist du eine Hausfrau?! ;D

Yeah, ich bin eine Hausfrau! ;D
Was dagegen? Eine Heavy-metal-Hausfrau mit Schreibbüro, Garten, Kindern, Mann und Hund! ;)

Now thats what I call a heavy metal frontman. He's gone through all that shit and hes still up on stage churning out the best riffs ever. Those two hands of his seem to be getting quite the workout over the last 20 years.

Ah, I forgot one thing:
metal helps me to deal with my anger! So metal has a good influence on me not a bad one! When I´m in anger I listen to some loud heavy metal and it`s making me feel better!!!
;D

.......or else: explain it to her yourself when she is in a good mood ;)
tell her, that there are even mums and dads that listen to heavy metal music, because it`s making them feel better and all that......common, give it a try! ;)

I work 8-5 M-F and when I'm not doing that I'm either listening to or playing heavy metal.

OMG DOPPELGANGER!!!

I'm a student though :'( With all the guitaring and homeworking and working and friends and family.. And updating here.

I'm all busy. :P A busy life.. Well it's a good one!

Hi,
my first metallica-album was the black one, I bought it when it came out. So that`s 13 years ago, I guess. Before that time I heard lots of heavy metal and hard-rock, black sabbath, led zeppelin, deep purple, rush.......I knew some metallica songs from friends, but after buying the black album, I bought all the others, and I got hooked ;D

Progressive metal is my favorite genre (Dream Theater, Opeth, Tool, Neurosis) but Metallica is my fav. band.

Otherwise it's Thrash (Megadeth, Lipid, early Met), "New Wave of British Heavy Metal" (Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Saxon) and Doom (My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost)

I don't like any kind of metal with immature lyrics. I am aware that KEA has immature lyrics, but Met evolved through the years. Generally i'm turned off by lyrics about sex and satinism.
And ofcoarse I hate Nu-metal I don't even consider it a subgenre of metal...

ppl have to remember that iron maiden are an old school heavy metal band, and for old school metal bands its more about the sound of the music, and less about the vocals. the talents of the musicians carried the vocals, where as with metallica, thered be no metallica without the grunt of hetfield, there would be a band becoz of the talented musicians (hammet, trujilo <--sp?, ulrich), but not as legendary.

therefore id say they were even in terms of there era of music, other than that Metallica owns all \m\(~.~)/m/

Posted by motorbreath83 on 12/10/04 @ 04:40 PM Post subject: Re: Money or music?

Got anything to back that up?

I said "I get the feeling." Lars cut all the solos on St. Anger, and he was the one heading all of the sueings. So that just leaves the impression that he is the one that is more money driven. James doesn't seem that way at all, neither does kirk; and Rob, even though he is a good bass player, i still think he is just filling in for Cliff. So, i dont think Metallica is a sell out, and i think they will always be remembered as the best heavy metal band.

My influences....

I play Bass.

so.... I go for Metallica
Godsmack
Staind
Christian Music
Jesus Christ
Heavy Metal
Death Metal
Spiritual Metal
My Imagination
Common Chords
Scales
Slide/tap-thumbing

Posted by on 04/10/06 @ 02:24 AM Post subject: Southern Storm anyone?

Ok, I am bosnian. :)

Southern Storm is a bosnian metal band that has half songs in english and other in bosnian. I know what you guys think, bosnian WTF?, but they're surprisingly good, and I was impressed as well. I uploaded two songs and I have their whole 1999 album, but if you like these two songs, I can upload the whole album. They're not really known yet, but upon their second album release they probably will become more known. So if you like some good heavy metal, you'll probably enjoy this band. :)

Southern Storm - 1999
Souther Storm - Wake me up

Posted by cloudnine on 12/13/04 @ 02:51 AM Post subject: Re: Parents...

Ha, my mom likes opera and classical, so she's not big on metal. The hardest thing she listens to is like Eric Clapton and stuff, so I don't think she's exactly into metal.

But she knows Metallica is my favourite band, and comments (usually postively) on stuff that I come home with like posters, and when I told her a "heavy metal" guitarist had been shot (Dimebag) this past week, she was like "He wasn't from your favourite band Metallica was it?!" and she actually sounded concerned. Aww.

However, she's never actually LISTENED to them, so maybe I should start her on Load or something and keep working up. But really, the thought of a 56-year-old, 5 foot 4, grey-haired woman headbanging to thrash is sort of implasible.

Posted by motorbreath83 on 12/09/04 @ 08:07 PM Post subject: Re: Parents...

My dad was a classic metal head stoner in the 70's and early 80's, then he became a christian in 1983, so did my mom. I suppose i became a metal head in the mid 1990's , i never told my parents, but they knew. The reason they let me listen to metal is because they realized that although music is powerfull and can change people,it isn't the cause of the worlds problems. Heavy metal has always been a release of anger for people, and is no more damaging then other music. If anything, this new punk rock is causing problems because it makes kids think that they are worthless and should be apethetic. I'm a christian, and i dont resent my faith or my parents, along with metal music, they helped shape me into the man i've become. Most christians arent speaking out against metal because they no its not the cause of todays youths problems, there are bigger things to fight. I wouldn't call the "christians" combating metal christians, because they are just hypocritical. As for parents, its ok to disagree with them, but dont hate the people that brought you into the world.

Posted by motorbreath83 on 12/09/04 @ 06:14 PM Post subject: Re: Ebonics

I dont listen to old school rap, i probly wouldn't like it, but i'd just live and let live in that case; but all this new rap is the same like 4-note tune with some shit lyrics that dont even have to rhyme any more. Have you noticed how many rap songs are using rock riffs and other riffs? Like sad but true, crazy train, Imperial death march( star wars), and master of puppets? they cant even think of their own tunes any more! I go to an all white school and the only thing worse than a racist black, is a self hating white! I cant get over all these kids failing out of school intentianly and dressing "gangster." These rappers arent even tough, all they do is sing tough, i'd like to see one of them in a thrash metal club! But... I take assurance in that rap is only a fad, Heavy metal and Rock and roll have stood the test of time and made it through all the fads pop culture could throw at it.

On a more seriuos not: Rest in piece "Dimebag" Derrel, today hell's black gates claimed one of Metals great guitarists, but today Metal has also struck its swift vengence on his killer.

12/09/04 Reports are coming in from Columbus, Ohio, where an alleged shooting occurred at Alrossa Villa, the nightclub where Damageplan was performing tonight. The earliest reports indicate that Dimebag Darrell and one other band member were among those killed.

The following is posted at the Web site of WCMH TV Channel 4, the NBC affiliate in Columbus at http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3983630/detail.html

At Least 5 Dead, 2 Wounded In Nightclub Shooting
Witnesses: Alleged Guman Went Onto Stage, Fired Shots

POSTED: 10:32 pm EST December 8, 2004
UPDATED: 1:40 am EST December 9, 2004

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- At least five people died and two others were wounded after a shooting at a Columbus nightclub on Wednesday night, NBC 4 reported.

The shooting took place shortly after 10 p.m. at Alrosa Villa, located at 5055 Sinclair Road.

Two members of the heavy metal band Damageplan were reportedly shot and killed, including Dimebag Darrell, formerly with the band Pantera, NBC 4's David Wayne reported. The other band member's name was not released. The alleged gunman also died at the scene, Wayne reported.

Columbus police Sgt. Brent Mall said the alleged gunman appeared to be targeting the band members. After shooting at the stage, the gunman opened fire on the crowd. At that point, an officer shot man dead, Mall added. Police said there could have been many more fatalities had the officer not killed the gunman.

Shortly after the band began playing its first song, a man reportedly ran onto the stage and began shooting, according to a witness who identified himself as Sean. Some members of the audience reportedly thought the man running onto the stage with a gun was part of the band's act, NBC 4's Erin Tate reported.

Witnesses said that several shots were fired at the band. Witnesses said that a bouncer at the club tackled the alleged gunman before that person was shot and killed.

NBC 4 reported that of the surviving victims, one person was in critical condition while the other was in fair condition. Several others were treated at the scene, suffering from various injuries.

Alrosa Villa is a popular north Columbus nightspot for young adults, featuring rock and heavy metal bands, NBC 4 reported.

According to the band's Web site, Damageplan was touring nationally. It performed in Buffalo, N.Y., on Tuesday night and had a concert scheduled in Flint, Mich., on Thursday.

Damageplan featured former Pantera artists Dimebag Darrell and Vinnie Paul. The pair were joined by vocalist Patrick Lachman and bassist Bobzilla, according to their Web site. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

englands the home of heavy metal for fucks sake! now were stuck with pop and even worse..... dance!!! i mean dance! when i rule the world all those who listen 2 dance will be publicly burnt! rar!

Posted by Jackass on 11/07/04 @ 10:45 AM Post subject: Re: Led Zeppelin

Fucking legends your fucking right metal ass monkey!
I may like Metallica's music more than zepp but i have more respect for Led zeppelin because bands like Metallica, Maiden etc. would not exist without the masters Led zepp starting everything
They are the creators of heavy metal!

ur right, but lemme be a smartass here for a sec. Sabbath was a bigger influence on metallica, and sabbath kinda started heavy metal. But zep are better overall musicians than sabbath, and their songs are more complex.

Posted by dptain on 12/16/04 @ 10:23 PM Post subject: Message From Dave Mustaine

I was on the Megadeth forum and could not believe how hard the death of Dimebag had affected Dave. Dave does posts on the forum himself and what he said was mind blowing!! Being of fan of both Megadeth and Metallica for almost twenty yrs I was glad to hear it!!!
This is the post along with the link for those who may think it is a hoax!!
Dave Mustaine:

"Droogies!

Tonight I had the honor and priveledge to host a special tribute to the life of Darrel “Dimebag” Abbott.

I went out to NYC Thursday at 9:30 PM on a redeye to do this, and during the period since then, I have had a good amount of time to reflect on my own life.

I realized how fortunate I am, and have been to have met some of you, and in some cases become friends with many of you.

What is bothering me is the people who I have not been able to meet, or worse, have met and ended up not being friends with. There are many.

I would like to, in honor of Darrel's life, learn from him and how many friends he apparently had made.

Over my career I have a lot of cleaning up to do on my side of the street as well as letting things go, for once and for all; I need to apologize to many people and also to forgive and quit holding grudges.

Having said that, if there is something I did to you or someone you know, please give me the opportunity to make this right.

To Slayer and Metallica: I am sorry for whatever I may have done in the past and wish to make it right, to put it behind us. Please let me know how and when we can talk this out.

To previous bandmembers and managers: I say the same to you.

To all the Megadeth/Metallica fans: from this day forward, there will never be another unkind word from my mouth perpetuating this silly 22 year old feud.

And to heavy metal fans around the world: I am going to emulate Dimebag by being more like him; more friendly, and more interested in your lives too, I promise.

I am grateful to have been asked to come in this hour of darkness to represent us all as we come together and heal as a worldwide music community, and I would be a fraud if I didn't say I need to do more to better “represent.”

Thank you in advance for your forgiveness and for your support,

Dave Mustaine"
__________________
MSGD!

http://forums.megadeth.com/showthread.php?t=94272
You will have to register to read this post!!

Posted by Saint_Anger on 10/31/04 @ 05:39 PM Post subject: Their Awards...

You know, Metallica won a lot of awards, here's an overview, if you're interested:

Grammy's:
1. Best Metal Performance for 'One' (1990)
2. Best Metal Performance for 'Stone Cold Crazy' (1991)
3. Best Metal Performance with Vocal for 'Metallica' (1992)
4. Best Metal Performance for 'Better Than You' (1999)
5. Best Hard Rock Performance for 'Whiskey In The Jar' ('00
6. Best Rock Instrumental Performance for 'The Call Of Ktulu (S&M-version) (2001)
7. Best Metal Performance for 'St. Anger' (2004)

MTV Video Music Awards:
1. Best Hard Rock Video for 'Enter Sandman' (1992)
2. Best Hard Rock Video for 'Until It Sleeps' (1996)

Amercian Music Awards:
1. Favorite Heavy Metal/Hard Rock Artist (1993)
2. Favorite Heavy Metal/Hard Rock Artist (1997)

Billboard Music Awards:
1. Best Hard Rock Artist (1997)

Bammie Awards:
1. Best Drummer for Lars (1999)

Diamond Awards:
1. For selling over 10 million copies of 'Metallica' (1999)

Arthur M. Sochot Awards:
1. For Exellence for 'S&M' (2000)

California Music Awards:
1. Best Drummer for Lars (2000)
2. Best Guitarist for Kirk (2004)

VH1 My Music Awards:
1. Best Stage Spectacle & Gods Of Thunder (2000)

Artist Direct Online Music Awards:
5 awards including: Favorite Group, Best Fan Website, Most Talked About Artists, Internet Hero (Lars) & Favorite Turn-It-Up-Loud CD (S&M) (2000)

Artist Contribution Award (2001)
Governors Award (2004)
ASCAP Award (2004)

Plus a spot on the San Fransisco Walk Of Fame

PS: The Unforgiven II was performed live on that Billboard Music Award Show in 1997, in case you were wondering...

Sports, listening to real loud heavy metal, nature.........
and time will heal the wounds!!!!
A big hug from me, too! :-*

Posted by DarkFlare on 11/04/04 @ 12:16 PM Post subject: Re: Led Zeppelin

Fucking legends your fucking right metal ass monkey!
I may like Metallica's music more than zepp but i have more respect for Led zeppelin because bands like Metallica, Maiden etc. would not exist without the masters Led zepp starting everything
They are the creators of heavy metal!

Posted by enzio on 09/28/04 @ 05:53 PM Post subject: Re: Metal Music

well these bands arent all heavy metal (most arnt) but i like em and im a huge metallica fan so you MIGHT like em.... just gonna post em all

and you dont have to listen just to heavy metal :P

Guns N’ Roses - novemember rain!!
Audioslave - like a stone
Cream - white room
Slipknot (just a couple songs) - wait and bleed
Slayer - south of heaven
Megadeth - die dead enough
Killswitch Engage - when darkness falls
System of a down - chop suey
Van Halen - aint talkin bout love
The Offspring - the noose
Iron Maiden - hallowed by thy name
Pearl Jam - black
Deep Purple - child in time
Black Sabbath - paranoid
Kiss - rock and roll all nite
Ozzy Osbourne - mr. crowley
Judas Priest - better by you, better than me
A perfect Circle (some) - the outsider
Quuensryche - operation mindcrime
Pantera (not a ton) - cemetery gates
In Flames - only for the weak
Stone Temple Pilots - interstate love song
Godsmack (just a few) - realign
AC/DC - rocker
The Beatles (not too many) - yesterday
Led Zeppelin - since ive been loving you
Nirvana - smells like teen spirit
Opeth - wreath
Iced Earth - when the eagle cries
Joe Satriani - crush of love
Chicago (some of there stuff is good) - 25 or 6 to 4
Eagles - hotel california
Soundgarden - black hole sun
Rolling Stones - paint it black
Radiohead - paranoid android
Derek and the Dominos - layla
Pink Floyd - comfortably numb
Ted Nugent - strangehold
Aerosmith - dream on
Blue Oyster Cult - then came the last days of may
Motley Crue - too young to fall in love
Quiet Riot - cum on feel the noize
Def Leppard - too late for love
Dream Theatre - pull me under

those are my favorites (well not always favorites) from each of those bands, there all good songs to listen to..

Posted by Banger on 12/05/04 @ 01:38 AM Post subject: Re: Metallica as kids

Haha...1 year old Jason is hilarious. Parents should really think about these photos before they take em...ya never know when your kid is going to end up in a heavy metal band. :-/

Posted by metalsuzan on 11/02/04 @ 02:51 PM Post subject: Re: Grrrr!

C´mon, liste to some real loud heavy metal, that might help! ;)

hetfield and hammet rated number 2 greatest heavy metal guitarest of all time, i posted the link were i founded on some other post, tommy iommi was number 1

Posted by on 04/14/06 @ 10:07 AM Post subject: Ihsahn

I just bought the solo album, the Adversary, and I am very very very impressed. I had mixed feeling about it before I bought it, but I find it to be very pleasing. I really love Ihsashn as a musician and as a person. I found out the other day that he lives in a town of 12, 000 people and teaches music at the local school. Like, this guy is a James Hetfield in the Black Metal world, and he teaches. What a champ! He seems to have moved out of that silly satanist black metal era, along with all the others from Emperor, and I really am enjoying what is coming out as a result. This album I would say is a mix of 3 Wave Black Metal (Prometheus: The Discipline of Fire & Demise, Son's Of Northern Darkness etc), and Heavy Metal. A lot of clean vocals, and a lot of very very good music. If you are a budding black metal fan, or just like Ishahn, then get into this. Emperor fans - no questions - buy it.

Posted by FranticPptMastr on 09/21/04 @ 10:25 AM Post subject: Re: Metal Music

I'm having this problem too...i love and always will love Metallica...but i'm trying to find some good new metal bands out there...and there just aren't any....and by new metal, i dont mean Nu-Metal shit...but good new heavy metal, and there just isnt that much out there...

Posted by Duffman on 12/18/04 @ 01:03 AM Post subject: Re: Metal Music

With my list I shall put in many relatively unheard of Australian bands.

THRASH METAL:
Megadeth
Kreator
Sodom
Destruction
Mortal Sin(Aussie band)
Slaughter Lord(Aussie band)
Death Angel

POWER METAL:
Blind Guardian (kicks the arse out of Metallica!)
Nightwish
Dungeon(Aussie band)
Sonata Arctica
Rhapsody
Black Majesty (Aussie)
Black Steel (Aussie)
Lost Horizon
Statovarius
Dragon Force (kick arse metal!!!)
Falconer
Elvenking
Helloween
Hammerfall
Iced Earth
Edguy

HEAVY METAL(NWOBHM/TRADITIONAL METAL):
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Dio
Pegazus (Australian)

BLACK METAL:
Bathory
Celtic Frost
Hellhammer
Mayhem
Darkthrone
Lord Belial
Marduk
Windir
1349
Setherial
Hecate Enthroned
Emperor
Nokturnal Mortum
Nargaroth
Rotting Christ
Graveland
Myrddraal (aussie)
Gospel of the Horns (aussie)
(early) Behemoth
Burzum
Finntroll
Gorgoroth
Immortal (kick arse!!!!)
Abominator (Aussie black/death band)
Dissection
Satyricon

PROGRESSIVE METAL:
Queensryche
Dream Theater (w00t!!!)
Symphony X
Opeth
Vanishing Point (Aussie band)
Winds
Evergrey
Eyefear(Aussie band)

DEATH METAL/GRINDCORE:
Death
Cannibal Corpse
Exhumed
Nile
Aeon
Deicide
Cryptopsy
Vader
Decapitated
Behemoth
Earth(Aussie band)
God Dethroned
Hate Eternal
Morbid Angel
Vital Remains
Destroyer 666 (Australian)
The Forsaken
Bloodbath

MELODIC DEATH METAL:
Amon Amarth
At the Gates
Children Of Bodom
The Haunted
(early) In Flames
(early) Soilwork
Impious
Dark Tranquility

DOOM METAL:
Black Sabath
The Eternal (Australian)
Candlemass
My Dying Bride
Evoken

Posted by Damage_INC on 12/14/04 @ 04:36 PM Post subject: Re: a beard..

Our school wants us all to look neat so we'r not allowed beards, long heavy metal hair (i was made to cut mine), shaved heads or any jewelry etc

Iommi did get voted the top heavy metal guitarist ever

Well, a friend of mine has this heavy metal band called Sacrilege, and he needs some response. He's writing all their music, except lyrics.
Imo he's a fucking genious.

So please tell me what you think about the songs. Be honest, please :)

http://rapidshare.de/files/18646956/41301.mp3.html (Withered earth)

http://rapidshare.de/files/18647147/66218.mp3.html (Fear and Loathing)

http://rapidshare.de/files/18647258/66221.mp3.html (Unleashed)

http://rapidshare.de/files/18647368/72959.mp3.html (Above the Burning Flame)

Posted by BTHTDB82 on 12/19/04 @ 03:04 AM Post subject: Re: Christian Death

Oops I fucked up, yeah your girlfriend's friend. Telling people your goth sucks, I never really said it, but just them asking. It's almost as bad as telling them you like heavy metal and having long hair. They think you're a freak and immediately view all of the stereotypes as being factual parts of your life. It sucks that people are so quick to judge people into metal.

Wow Sum 41's gone heavy metal 8)

Posted by drumsteen on 10/22/04 @ 02:11 AM Post subject: metal feedback welcome

Hey everyone. im the drummer of a heavy metal band in Melbourne, Australia. Please check our website out, its (www.indignation-band.com).It'll only take a couple of minutes!!!!! We have two completed (semi mixed) songs to download, and i would really appreciate if u guys would let me or the band know what u all think of our music/drumming etc. Thanks a heap. Drumsteen from the Nation ;D

Posted by Alz on 11/17/04 @ 11:12 AM Post subject: I need help please!!

I entered a contest, and you need to put 20 songs, the most influential heavy metal songs, can you help me choose please

Posted by Jackass on 12/13/04 @ 09:37 PM Post subject: Re: Metallica Books

The funniest, and most biased part is when in the pictures, there's two pics, on of kirk in the early-mid eighties, and one of him in 96, and below the caption says
"Kirk Hammett, from heavy metal teen to fetish club reject"

Yep the devil horns were invented by heavy metal (Ronnie James Dio did it first, but you could argue that Kiss did, either way...) For Heavy metal, and should remain that way. If I seen some kid with the devil horns at a Simple Plan concert, I'd probably puke. Just to let you know :P

I entered a contest, and you need to put 20 songs, the most influential heavy metal songs, can you help me choose please

influential? well that is easy, all the well known ones

Crazy Train-Ozzy
Paranoid-Sabbath
Iron Main-Sabbath
Master of Puppets-Metallica
The Number of the beast-Iron Maiden
Run To The Hills-Iron Maiden
One-Metallica
Stairway to heaven-Led Zeppelin
Orion-Metallica
Rock n Roll-Zeppelin
Megadeth-Holy Wars
AC/DC-Back in Black
AC/DC-Hells Bells
Iron Maiden-The Trooper
Guns n Roses-Sweet child o mine
Guns n Roses-Welcome to the jungle
Smoke on the water-Deep Purple
Purple haze-Jimi Hendrix Expirience
Mr. Crowley-Ozzy
Fade to Black-DUH!!!

of course master came out first. This was basically cliff's masterpiece. Orion chrissake, there are so many defining songs on this. Lemme start:
Disposable Heroes: Defining Thrash metal song
The Thing That Should Not Be(or for the lazy fucks, thingy ;D): Defining heavy metal Black Sabbath type song
Battery: Defining opener
Master Of Puppets: DEFINING METALLICA MOTHERFUCKER
Damage Inc.: Defining kill your ears if you put the volume too loud song

of course master came out first. This was basically cliff's masterpiece. Orion chrissake, there are so many defining songs on this. Lemme start:
Disposable Heroes: Defining Thrash metal song
The Thing That Should Not Be(or for the lazy fucks, thingy ;D): Defining heavy metal Black Sabbath type song
Battery: Defining opener
Master Of Puppets: DEFINING METALLICA MOTHERFUCKER
Damage Inc.: Defining kill your ears if you put the volume too loud song nice definitons \m/

Posted by on 04/04/06 @ 04:53 PM Post subject: Iced Earth

For all the new people on these forums, if you are interested in getting into some more metal I suggest the thrash/power metal outfit that is Iced Earth. Awesome guitar work by Jon Schaffer and amazing vocals by Matt Barlow. I suggest anything from Burnt Offerings, Dark Saga, Something Wicked This Way Comes, or Horror Show for starters. If you can drop the cash, get the three box set Alive In Athens, you won't be disappointed. If you have a downloading program, try a few of these

Dante's Inferno (greatest heavy metal song PERIOD)
The Hunter
Melancholy (Holy Martyr)
Damien

I know that this movie has not been released everywhere yet but being fortunate enough to live in NY where it was released first.. I feel obligated to review it and let everyone know my feelings about this outstanding demonstration of hardships in the greatest heavy metal band of all time's life.

As this movie begins you hear the familiar riff of "Seek and Destroy" and witness Metallica playing a show with Jason Newstead, before all events took place. Soon after it shows a news clip announcing Jason's departure from the band, he states that James was overprotective of him and didn't want him pursuing Echobrain (side project) as much as Jason wanted to. Trying not to let this news discourage them from producing a new album - they enter a recording studio where producer Bob Rock takes over bass duties.

Lars and Kirk seem very excited about this record as they constantly work to come up with great material, but James seems out of the loop, depressed, and not eager to finish the record. It almost looks like he feels forced. After an argument with Lars, James storms out of the room vanishing with the announcement soon after that he decided to go to therapy for alcoholism and other unreleased addictions.

Various clips of old shows enter the screen where James is constantly drinking - that might have been exciting back then but now he has a family and responsibilites and I'm glad he finally realized he had to get back on track with his life. As Metallica looks like it is falling apart, Jason Newstead's band Echobrain looks better than ever as Lars and Bob Rock go to their show and realize Jason wasn't really given as much creative freedom in Metallica as he now has.

With the guidance of a Dr.Phil (not the Dr.Phil) Lars, Kirk, and Bob Rock discuss their feelings about everything going on around them as difficult as it may seem. Kirk expresses that he is very uncomfortable not knowing when James will return.

Nearly a year passes before James returns a new man ; he makes a truly inspiring statement about how predictable his life was with drinking and how much more exciting it is now that he is clean and can respond to everything around him more efficiently. The making of the record is resumed and a new method is taken. Instead of everyone dealing with their own instrument and James dealing with the lyrics, every band member (and Bob Rock) contributes to every part of every song. You can't help singing along to these songs from St. Anger as they unravel and gain a new appreciation.

The search for a new bass player is a very interesting part but after seeing Rob Trujillo's full audition I feel completely confident that he was the one meant to be in Metallica- hopefully he will remain with them for a long time to come.

I could go on forever but I will let you judge the rest, when this movie comes near you SEE IT. It is inspiring, funny, and touching.

Interesting scenes also include: Ulrich's meeting with Dave Mustaine, the naming of the record, the making of the music video St. Anger in a prison.

METALLICA FOREVER.

Posted by crackofbass on 11/11/04 @ 06:16 PM Post subject: Re: anesthesia

scofield, youre stupid. metallica invented thrash and redefined heavy metal. not to mention cliff is probably the most famous metal bassist ever and hammett is the most copied metal guitarist.

i would say that the song "One" was what started them out in the mainstream popularity part of things.
before the Black Album, metal and hard rock were in the mainstream, but TBA kind of kicked HEAVY metal into the mainstream. i never would have thought that i would hear Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, or Anthrax on the radio. before AJFA, Metallica were just an opening band for bigger acts. the Justice tour was their first headlining tour.
when i started 9th grade in 1988, kids would look at my t-shirts and ask, "what is metal-licka"? that is how they pronounced it, because they had never heard of them. 6 months later, everyone knew who they were because "One" was all over the radio. then a few years later, Metallica was a household name.

Posted by crackofbass on 11/08/04 @ 06:47 PM Post subject: Re: best guitarist

fine, whos the best in the "heavy metal genre?" not rhythm, lead
hammett takes that one

If you found yourself being disappointed by this year's Ozzfest lineup (much like myself), it seems as if we can all relax. The event's organizers have announced in their latest press release that the lineup was indeed lame, sort of. Festival organizer and founder Sharon Osbourne revealed today that the previously announced lineup (featuring bands such as DISTURBED and ATREYU) was announced prematurely to gauge fan reactions, when in fact, none of the bands were officially confirmed. "We just wanted to see how the fans would react to the bands we were considering," stated Osbourne. "The overwhelming reaction to the bands was negative, so I knew we had to go back to the drawing board in order to make this year a success." However, she soon realized that in order for this year's festival to be a success against the stiff competition presented by some of the newer U.S. festivals, they would need the help of one of metal's most well respected bands: IRON MAIDEN.
"I was childish...I admit it," said Osbourne, reflecting on last year's incident involving the legendary band's singer, Bruce Dickinson. "Anyone who knows me, knows that I tend to overreact. Thankfully Bruce and the boys are gentlemen and we've been able to put all of the ugliness behind us in order to give the fans what they want, because let's face it, IRON MAIDEN were the biggest draw last year." And if that wasn't enough, another legendary British heavy metal band, who are also an Ozzfest alumni, will be co-headlining the festival with them. "We were trying to figure out how we could possibly top the past two years of MAIDEN and PRIEST, when we said 'fuck it, why not just have them both this time?"

Along with those two legendary metal titans (who will rotate spots each night) and the festival's namesake, OZZY OSBOURNE in select markets, the revised lineup for this year's Ozzfest boasts an impressive and diverse group of both legendary and up-and-coming bands, which offers a stark contrast in comparison to the group of more trendy bands originally announced. The festival's new lineup consists of:

Main Stage:

OZZY OSBOURNE (select shows only)
IRON MAIDEN (headliner)
JUDAS PRIEST (headliner)
TESTAMENT
KING DIAMOND
MACHINE HEAD
NEVERMORE

Second Stage:

ANTHRAX (headliner)
NAPALM DEATH (co-headliner)
TOMAHAWK (co-headliner)
--------rotating--------
CRYPTOPSY
SUFFOCATION
THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN
--------rotating--------
3 INCHES OF BLOOD
CEPHALIC CARNAGE
DARK TRANQUILLITY
HORSE THE BAND
IMPALED
INTO ETERNITY
THE RED CHORD
SIKTH

With Ozzfest finally attempting to accurately represent the metal community, you're probably wondering where that leaves the bands originally announced for this year's tour. Rumors are currently circulating that most of the rejected bands will embark on a tour of their own sponsored by MTV, Hot Topic, and Lambgoat. More information will be posted as soon as it's released.

Posted by Quezacotl on 11/11/04 @ 09:40 PM Post subject: Re: anesthesia

But that music doesnt make up 10% of whats out there, why even pay attention to it?
Its starting to sound like you're arguing for the sake of arguing, and badly. Metallica is one of the most, if not the most, infuencial bands from the 80s and all of hard rock. They had a sound liek no other, basically, and as someone else said, redifined heavy metal and made thrash popular.

Punk and heavy metal don't mix that well punk singer try to freakin overpronounce everything. it annoys the hell out of me. any way is there a website i can go to, so that i can listen to this monstrasaty.

Posted by scofield on 11/11/04 @ 07:10 PM Post subject: Re: anesthesia

scofield, youre stupid. metallica invented thrash and redefined heavy metal. not to mention cliff is probably the most famous metal bassist ever and hammett is the most copied metal guitarist.
No not really. What does fame have to do with how good you are? Hammet is the most copied metal guitarist? So EVH and Randy Rhodes havent done anything? Every guitarist in the 80s stole EVH's finger tapping, Kirk included. When did I ever say that Cliff wasnt the most famous metal bassist anyways? Im just saying that what Cliff did wasnt original in the slightest seeing as how Jaco was playing a distorted bass 10 years earlier and doing a hell of a lot more with it. Same with Geezer butler.

Well, I´m a girl (woman) and I love heavy metal. But I guess, most of the girls and women seem to dislike heavy metal, it´s too hard and heavy and wild for them. But when they listen to something like: nothing else matters, they like it. I am always wondering what type of people prefer heavy metal? Or would that be stereotyping?

Posted by BTHTDB82 on 11/26/04 @ 03:44 AM Post subject: Your local bands

Does anyone have some good local heavy metal bands around them?

I recommend Manowar -- The Gods Made Heavy Metal.

It barely beats Hail to England and Thor (Powerhead) as my favourite song by America's best power metal band, the crappy experimentation and the pro-Bush propaganda in Warriors of the World Unite notwithstanding.

(Isn't funny how my favourite Manowar song is a newer song by them, while #2 and #3 are old school?)

well why dont you fuckin open your eyes. look at it this way: in less then 48 hours, i have caused more posts on here for 3 forums than anyone else has.
Only because we're all trying to correct your incorrect statements. We hate to see misinformation spread around. You obviously a fan of country or rap, but certaily not Heavy Metal because everything you say is wrong.

i dont know if this is true with you people, but where i live its assumed that just because im a girl and i dont wear black i cant listen to heavy metal. I LOVE HEAVY METAL. people around here are so closed minded, little do they know, this music keeps me sane!

I dont know but was Randy Rhoads Heavy metal? he was amazing

Girl metal bands are hard to come by because its alot harder for a girl to get the deep growling, or yelling voice like the guys can. Secondly(no offense to the girls in here) the pop culture image of what people should act like, look like, and listen too seems to effect girls more. Guys usualy care less about what other people think of them so its easier to ignore pop culture and listen to what ever they want. So for all the girls in this form, and into heavy metal music: More power to yah for taking a stand and not being afraid of sticking out!

Whoever asked the question what types of people like heavy metal, heres what i say:

Blacks usualy dont because it goes against how they were raised, and not to stereotype, but alot of them dont like anything that is all white(ie most metal bands). People who are rather well off, or white collar as they are called in the states, because they see it as the poor mans music or "barbaric" ;D . Finaly, anyone into sports majorly dont like it; because they are influenced by MTV and what they say is good music.

Dont yell at me for this, its just my opinion, if your is diferent, post it and i'll yell at you ;D ::)

I think Kirk's probably the best out there in the heavy metal world

Edit: Yeah ok THANKS Krystyna. I did read the article. I just thought it was freaking funny, and didnt catch the fact that the guy isnt actually IN the band. Since I dont know Gorgoroth.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=a85d734a-f34f-4c99-9c45-6cb9b2c437c2

'Holy crap, dude, you just got hit by a train'
20-year-old struck while walking near tracks

Jesse Maggrah, 20, clutches his CDs and CD player in his hospital bed in Red Deer on Monday. He was struck by a freight train on Sunday while walking beside the tracks. Heavy metal music on his CD player drowned out the locomotive's blasts.

Published: Tuesday, April 18, 2006
RED DEER - The metal gods were smiling on Jesse Maggrah.

The 20-year-old man was walking beside railway tracks on Sunday, the Norwegian heavy metal band Gorgoroth cranked on his portable CD player, when he was hit by a freight train.

Maggrah said he did hear the blast of the train horn just before he was hit.

"I tried to jump out of the way, but I guess not in time," he said Monday from his bed at Red Deer Regional Hospital Centre. "It was just instant. I was just walking and then I was on the ground. I wasn't sure what happened. Then I saw the train stopping up ahead. I thought, 'Holy crap, dude, you just got hit by a train.' "

Police say the engineer and conductor on the northbound Canadian Pacific Railway train saw the man on the tracks several kilometres south of Red Deer. The crew blew the whistle and attempted to stop, but they were only able to slow the train to about 50 kilometres per hour before hitting him.

Maggrah was thrown four to five metres from the tracks. Stunned, he moved his arms and legs to check for damage.

"I knew I was alive, so that was good."

He has several broken ribs, one of which is poking into a lung, his doctors have told him. Maggrah is also sore and stiff, and is having trouble walking.

Maggrah said he remembers the train engineer checking him to see if he was OK. "He seemed kind of scared. He didn't know if I was dead or not."

Maggrah was walking into Red Deer to watch a band jam night at a local club.

He said he didn't hear the train over his music and he didn't feel anything through the ground.

"Maybe the metal gods above were smiling on me and they didn't want one of their true warriors to die on them. Otherwise, I'd be up there in the kingdom of steel."

© The Edmonton Journal 2006

All I can say is... L O freaking L.

I know there are many guitarists beter than kirk, for example fukin peturcci, steve vai , but in heavy metal genre??

Ok now I'm hoping everyone knows what this is if not here's a little picture for you all - /,,/ ok get it now? I used to think it was great to do that sign a lot, but lately I've seen it used by too many people who have no business doing so. I see little kids doing it all the time during like pop 'concerts' and shit and then you got fucking just people doing it for no fucking reason at all other than to look cool. It used to be related to heavy metal only. It seems now like anyone that wants to make themselves feel like a badass are using the fucking thing. And maybe this belongs in the rant section, but I'm actually just trying to see if I'm the only one that thinks this. Instead of using that symbol too much I've switched over to using the middle finger a lot. Oh well maybe I'm the only one.

Blackened is the end,Punk bands it will send, throwing all metal CD's, into obscurity
death of heavy metal, long hair and distortion pedal, a revolutions end, never will it mend

N-E-V-E-R!!!!!!!!!!

New wave of British heavy Metal was an era roughly bout 79-83 and Lars basically would hunt down anything to do with NWOBHM. Examples of NWOBHM bands are Diamond head, Mercyful fate Def leppard and Iron maiden are even classed in NWOBHM. Oh and I'd say Dave Mustaine was influced by Tallica as he still wishes he was in the band! lol

Posted by Bastard of Bodom on 05/04/06 @ 11:45 PM Post subject:

Yeah and according to VH1, Led Zeppelin is heavy metal...in reference to their show of Top 20 greatest metal bands or something like that...

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=30375

People that think heavy metal is evil and aggrr grrrr!! FUCK!!!

WTF? Bastard!!!!!!!! >:(

:)

Posted by Quezacotl on 11/11/04 @ 09:45 PM Post subject: Re: One

I don't want to join in a pointless war of opinions, but I think One is the best Metallica song they've made. Might even be the best hard rock/heavy metal song. And I agree with Vodka on the attributes that make it a great tune

Dudes, Kirk was a pretty shit hot guitarist no doubt, but would now be percieved by many as a standard guitarist. Not taking anything away from him but there are far superior heavy metal, thrash metal guitarists. Gary Holt from Exodus could of been a better choice to replace Dave, but was also a big alcoholic and would or probably been to similar to Dave. Kirk was a guitarist they could control and tell what to do, and had a significantly smaller ego. (Just my 2 cents)

Dave Mustaine has a frantic style of controlled nonsense which beats Kirks pentatonic licks anyday, the sheer speed of Mustaine beats Kirk hands down, for the Hammett faithful check out Kirk in the 4 Horsemen, and then Dave in the Mechanix.

Marty Friedman pisses all over Kirk, the guy is phenomanal, my favourtie guitarist probably. Check out the Cacophony stuff as well, filthy stuff. His sweep picking is obscene. All the bends and exotic stuff is bad ass.

Dimebag, god rest his soul, was easily faster than Kirk and had a trem technique superior to Kirk by miles.

Zakk Wylde, if you like Kirk's pentatonic licks, then you would love Zakk Wylde, faster than Kirk i think.

I know Kirk Hammett fans will all reply saying its proven Kirk is one of the fastest in the world, best in the world, but the guys that make the polls overlook many guitarists not in the mainstream limelight. But i think the above selection are superior to Kirk.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=30375

People that think heavy metal is evil and aggrr grrrr!! FUCK!!!

WTF? Bastard!!!!!!!! >:(

:)

well first, the conservative prick who wrote that article is an ignorant dickhead. He calls metalheads ignorant? He's the fucking ignorant one. There's a teacher at my school who listens to metallica. Many kids say he's the best math teacher they've ever had. Ignorant my ass you piece of shit

second,
YOU STOLE AND RAPED MY NAME TEDDY!

then i wouldnt know about iron maidenbecause lars introduced me to the NWOBHM.

just a guess, but does that stand for New Wave Of British Heavy Metal?

I've heard some of Metallica's garage rehearsal tapes where they were just coming up with riffs. Dave Mustaine had a part in writing a lot of early material. They stole the one main riff from No Remorse from some unknown band, but I don't think they ever got a song from Motorhead. Now where the confusion might be is that they played all cover songs for their first few gigs and told the club owners that they were original songs written by Metallica. A lot of bands write music that was inspired by someone else's music. And if you try to write music that fits a genre such as Heavy Metal you're going to come out with stuff that sounds like other bands because only certain riffs are going to sound metal-like. But anyways there's always rumors flying, who knows what's true except for the person who did the act themself.

I enjoy both bands, although I've always felt Zeppelin is more of band that played "heavy" music, and Sabbath were the ones that created "heavy metal". Subtle difference...I know.

As far Musicians go, on technical terms Zeppelin wins in almost every aspect. But the things Sabbath does...they might not have the best singer, or the flashiest guitar player, but they have particular elements that are crucial to their success. That's why I favor Sabbath over Zeppelin.

Posted by metalsuzan on 12/17/04 @ 04:30 PM Post subject: Re: Rappers

Forgot something:
I remember when I was a teenager and started to listen to hard rock and heavy metal, my parents didn´t like that kind of music at all. They listen to classical music, so for them heavy metal wasn´t real music in a way, probably they were thinking about heavy metal groups like some of you guys in here think about rappers....no talent and so on................... ::) :P
And believe it or not I found some real real real great classical music and there are also some rap songs I like. Not that I really listen to those kinds of music.....but why shouldn´t people like rap, hip-hop, classical music, jazz, funk, even pop......everybody should listen to whatever he wants, that´s my opinion. Why should I start to hate somebody because of his music-taste? Common guys, you can´t be serious about that! ::)

....hope I didn´t get too carried away........

what kinda sicko would even ponder the possibility of a world without MetallicA??? quite simply they are the greatest heavy metal band to conquer the earth!! i finally saw them live for the first time in may 2004.. they blew me away.. i look forward to many more years of sore neck for days headbanging

\m/ MetallicA \m/

ok..... calm down. :( i didn't mean to, er, offend you.

There was a band a few years ago eg 1991 kind of time called L7, they were a sort of heavy metal/punk styled band, there split up now, had a few good songs.

I think ONE is better than NEM basically because it has that fast-paced heavy metal touch towards the end of the song, which is why I like it so much (the transition from soft to hard). NEM doesn't really have that (but it's still a very good song).

I was just saying in general, i used to have to pick up my cousin and she used to go to school with Cal Ripkens Jr. Son (baseball player), not one metal head out of the 700 hundred of em. I go to a public school in Sparrows Point, everyone here is blue collar, and most are into heavy metal; but people dont follow regular patterns all the time, so i cant speak for everyone. People shouldn't care what your backround is and all that, we are here because we like metal, and love metallica.

Posted by on 03/26/06 @ 08:21 AM Post subject:

Firstly: Ignore Explorer. He was flamed because we told him NOT to because it'd be a incredibly massive pain in the ass or expense and probably not worth it in the end and as a result of good advice: We were flamed so we flamed back.

Secondly: I've got a Seymour Duncan JB pickup and a Duncan-Designed Alnico in my guitar and I can get some very nice crunchyness out of it with my Marshall. EMG's are very limited. They're great for Heavy Metal rythym, but pretty dodgy for everything else. My Seymour Duncans let me play anything from Pink Floyd to Pantera and I'll still sound pretty good (provided I dont fuck up playing it)

Posted by motorbreath83 on 12/19/04 @ 01:39 PM Post subject: Re: Rappers

No, he is like the messiah rappers, people like him who actualy wrote there songs and stuff are like jesus to them. Companies just manipulate his image to sell the new rappers stuff. And dre was around when rap was popular. Rap has been mainstream since the 80's. When rap moves out of the mainsteam it will die and become a slight memory. Metal is out of the mainstream and its still alive and kicking, heavy metal is one of the purest forms of Rock n' Roll which is in its infancy, i think heavy metal will always be there though, and rap will go on the wayside once everyone finaly gets fed up with all these wiggers and whta not. MTV will push the next fad, and metal will still be there.

I won´t yell at you, cause I think there is some truth in what you said about the "heavy-metal-type of person" ;D
I like the "barbaric-thing" ;D Yeah let´s be barbaric! (reminds me of the song Of Wolf and men - All senses clean, back to the meaning of life........) ;D

And it´s probably also true that the girls seem to like the pop-culture more, cause they are raised to look nice and sweet and dadidadidoh..... Guys are more raised to be a man and be tough and all that...

oh shit, it´s really hard to describe all that in English, anyways, cheers to all the metal-fans, especially to the girls out here ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I love it heavy and metallica gives you heavy, baby, YEAH ;D

Posted by on 04/18/06 @ 10:10 PM Post subject:

its on the radio's heavy metal show right now, I like the little background bell thingy, and anyone think the riff sounds a bit like the intro on The Patient

first off,

there are just a few songs from load or reload that didnt make it in the black album as far as I know.and those songs were propably just a few main riffs for some songs, not finished ones.. the load and reload songs have been written as a whole, 30-40 songs have been written and the album was planned to be a double album, to be released together...but they chose to release them seperately, 1 by one.. and load-reload is sounding so much different than black album..totally different man..totally..anyways.

load and reload set some serious standarts, and I am actually surprised how you can be so unaware of it. 1st, they set a standart by showing as a thrash metal band, they can be a heavy metal band but still can make a bluesy, hard rocking music. 2nd, the song writing, the music style encouraged many artists, bands to make their own music, you can see that after load and reload many modern bands who make relatively harder music than normal mainstream pop-rock bands have popped out..creed, nickelback and many more.. they might have been making music before load era but metallicas music encouraged both bands and companies to do harder music but still being listenable for non-metal, non-rocker fans...3rd, load and reload has a so unique style actually, I still wonder how a hard rocking metal band can make such music...its so one of a kind..genius..so, they made us think and wonder, they showed the world that a metal band can be different, vary, progressive, free, modern, angry, and not scared to be soft when it's needed...all in one.

not enough setting standarts?? well, then good day.
one day you will see what I mean..

No need to get mad.
We both like Metallica, it's just that you prefer new and I prefer old.
And as far as setting standards I tend to agree with these fans.

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=31690

Maybe to you Load and Reload sonds different than the black album, but not to me. Even Metallica admit that the songs on load were the ones that didn't make the black album.
I still don't see how you think that Metallica setting the standards with those albums.
And as for st. anger, I guess that we'll just have to see what Metallica's new one will sound like.

first off,

there are just a few songs from load or reload that didnt make it in the black album as far as I know.and those songs were propably just a few main riffs for some songs, not finished ones.. the load and reload songs have been written as a whole, 30-40 songs have been written and the album was planned to be a double album, to be released together...but they chose to release them seperately, 1 by one.. and load-reload is sounding so much different than black album..totally different man..totally..anyways.

load and reload set some serious standarts, and I am actually surprised how you can be so unaware of it. 1st, they set a standart by showing as a thrash metal band, they can be a heavy metal band but still can make a bluesy, hard rocking music. 2nd, the song writing, the music style encouraged many artists, bands to make their own music, you can see that after load and reload many modern bands who make relatively harder music than normal mainstream pop-rock bands have popped out..creed, nickelback and many more.. they might have been making music before load era but metallicas music encouraged both bands and companies to do harder music but still being listenable for non-metal, non-rocker fans...3rd, load and reload has a so unique style actually, I still wonder how a hard rocking metal band can make such music...its so one of a kind..genius..so, they made us think and wonder, they showed the world that a metal band can be different, vary, progressive, free, modern, angry, and not scared to be soft when it's needed...all in one.

not enough setting standarts?? well, then good day.
one day you will see what I mean..