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Posted by cloudnine on 10/17/04 @ 11:38 AM    Post subject: Re: Metallica copies megadeath


I DO think Dave Mustaine is a moron. Let's say, hypothetically, he did write all the stuff he claims to have (which I have issues with anyway). So what? While Kill 'em All was an awesome album, let's not pretend it's Metallica's best.

Mustaine is a fucking idiot for releasing Mechanix YEARS after the Four Horsemen. Mechanix is a terrible song, while the Horsemen is a classic.

It's my opinion that Mustaine is just terribly bitter about being kicked out of Metallica. He has noone to blame but himself, though - he had drug problems at the time, and Metallica wasn't into that (yet =/), so they gave him the boot.

Let's face it - Megadeth isn't as good as Metallica. There, I said it. Most people would agree - Megadeth's sound just isn't as refined, the songs aren't as well penned, and Dave Mustaine's voice is no great shakes - it can go from a whine to a REALLY fake snarl in seconds.

I haven't seen the Some Kind of Monster interview with him, but I bet it'll just be him whining about how Megadeth never achieved the success of Metallica and then give excuses about it.

He needs to grow up.

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Posted by BTHTDB82 on 10/18/04 @ 01:39 PM    Post subject: Re: Metallica copies megadeath

I DO think Dave Mustaine is a moron. Let's say, hypothetically, he did write all the stuff he claims to have (which I have issues with anyway). So what? While Kill 'em All was an awesome album, let's not pretend it's Metallica's best.

Mustaine is a fucking idiot for releasing Mechanix YEARS after the Four Horsemen. Mechanix is a terrible song, while the Horsemen is a classic.

It's my opinion that Mustaine is just terribly bitter about being kicked out of Metallica. He has noone to blame but himself, though - he had drug problems at the time, and Metallica wasn't into that (yet =/), so they gave him the boot.

Let's face it - Megadeth isn't as good as Metallica. There, I said it. Most people would agree - Megadeth's sound just isn't as refined, the songs aren't as well penned, and Dave Mustaine's voice is no great shakes - it can go from a whine to a REALLY fake snarl in seconds.

I haven't seen the Some Kind of Monster interview with him, but I bet it'll just be him whining about how Megadeth never achieved the success of Metallica and then give excuses about it.

He needs to grow up.

First off the entire truth about Mustaine getting kicked out of Metallica has never been released to the public. If you read more, you'd know that. Second without the Mechanix there would be no horsemen. The reason why it took him a year after Metallica to release the song (Killing is My Business was released in '84) was because he had to get signed first. You can't just go out and record a song and put it on a record and then have it be sold in stores. Besides what the hell does when the song was released on an ablum have to do with anything? He still wrote the fucking thing. Metallica did a great job re-writing the lyrics and adding the bridge, but it didn't really change any after that. In my opinon, YOUR OPINIONS FUCKING SUCK!!!

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Posted by SosQ on 10/04/04 @ 08:10 AM    Post subject: Re: Metallica copies megadeath

thats is right Dave Mustaine copies Metallica!

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Posted by StanboG on 10/27/04 @ 03:17 AM    Post subject: Re: Your influnces?

besides 'tallica:
Alex Skolnik (ex-Testament, now playing jazz)
Dave Mustaine
Dimebag
Jeff Hanneman (not King!)
Steve Vai
Hendrix

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Posted by cloudnine on 12/01/04 @ 09:07 PM    Post subject: Re: whats the big deal?

Alas, if Dave Mustaine would just stick to guitar and stop screeching, Megadeth would have been/would be a better band.

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Posted by swampmetaldown on 11/05/04 @ 07:07 PM    Post subject: Re: Your influnces?

Guitar influences...  James hetfield, Dave Mustaine, Pepper Keenan, Jerry Cantrell, Dimebag Darrell, Tom Morello...
Drums... Lars Ulrich, Paul bostaph, Vinnie paul, John Freese
Bass.. hmm... big fan of Dave Ellefson... Rex Brown...

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Posted by KingSomething on 12/06/04 @ 06:58 AM    Post subject: Re: Im a MEGADETH fan that used to like metallica

Hey Megafan! NOBODY LIKES YOU!!! YOU ARE A COCKSUCKER!!! GO FUCK DAVE MUSTAINE UP THE ASS!!! you have the shittiest ideas and by the way, FUCK YOU!! i can guess that you  have no friends so go cry to your mom before she adopts you.  ; ;)

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Posted by BTHTDB82 on 12/03/04 @ 02:36 PM    Post subject: Re: Peace sells...

It's about warmongers, specifically the American ones who are politicians in high places. They get to blow the shit out of people for stupid reasons while they pick on little guys like Dave Mustaine who can't get to work on time and don't pay their bills, oh and don't support the system.

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Posted by DarkFlare on 12/06/04 @ 02:29 PM    Post subject: Re: Thank you DARK FLAME

I wasn't that pissed off i started a rant againtst you because you didn't give a valid reason why you don't like Metallica and it wasn't because you like Megadeth more than Metallica it was that you said 'down with Metallica' and how are Metallica overdated? By the way it's dark flare not flame. Another thing if Metallica are so bad and Megadeth are so good how come Dave Mustaine says that getting kicked out of Metallica has been the biggest regret of his life for the last 20 years?

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Posted by moto_psycho on 11/30/04 @ 09:03 PM    Post subject: Re: WHO CUD REPLACE LARS/JAYMEZ/ROB/KIRK?

if james left of got injured etc, the band would be over or ... dave mustaine would do . but metallica is like a building the 4 members are each are foundations if one goes that means a foundation would go the building would fall but u could replace it but itll never be the same . but for us fans ... when u think of metallica or listen to it who is the first memeber u think of or see ..... james so if he goes its over but the rest , get one of megadeths many guitarists , bassists and drummers.

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Posted by inanthema on 10/04/04 @ 11:00 AM    Post subject: Re: Metallica copies megadeath

I'm saying this once, then I'm never going to post here again.  Dave Mustaine did not copy Metallica.  They both used the same way of playing and they used the same band layout.  Everybody knows that Mustaine started out in Metallica.  He helped create it and he liked the layout.  He created the style which both bands use, but Kirk Hammett got the recognition for it.  I'm not saying that Mustaine sucks, or Megadeth sucks or that Metallica sucks.  I'm just saying that They are two different bands that use the same style of playing.   If the shoe had been on a different foot, and Hetfeild had left, you guys would be saying the same exact thing about him.

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Posted by Time_for_Deth on 10/08/04 @ 11:09 PM    Post subject: Re: Metallica vs Iron Maiden

Metallica, but Hallowed be thy Name and The Wicker Man are just fucking amazing songs to belt out whether or not you can sing just belt out the lyrics to hallowed be thy name.. It's fucking cool.

Bruce's vocals aren't like squeelish like Dave Mustaine's.. But He has a likable thrash metalish voice. And Dave has improved too.

Guitaring: Lead giutar: Kirk Hammett hands down
           Rhythm: As forementioned Maiden does some crazy harmonizing and it is a beautiful sound *like on To Live is to Die, the guitar is beautiful there too!*

Drums: Maiden for sure. Sorry Lars, it WAS close but Maiden is just better here.

 Bass: It's hard to judge Rob, maybe he'll pull some crazy lines out of his ass. Or maybe he won't. Cliff was AMAZING!!
Jason was great too, I sort of liked his back up vocals on certain tracks.

However Maiden here too, because with the everchanging Metallica, I can't rate the new bassist Rob very well. Gotta see him live soon!

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Posted by BTHTDB82 on 12/16/04 @ 03:06 PM    Post subject: Different Interviews new pieces of info

I was listening to some old interviews today and found out some new (to me anyways) things about the early days. The house that James and Ron used to live in when they first were getting Metallica started was demolished to make room for the Century Freeway. Now in the garage of that house, they recorded their first 4 song demo on a 4 track player that Lars barrowed from someone else. Ron's last gig was on 11/29/82. This next one is according to Ron from an interivew he did on KNAC. Ron was with James and Lars the first time they saw Cliff play. There are 3 different versions of how Ron got kicked out of/quit Metallica. One version is that his girlfriend overheard the rest of the band talking about replacing Ron with Cliff so he quit before they had a chance. Another version from Ron is that they treated him like shit and he got fed up especially when Dave Mustaine poured beer onto his bass and got it in the pickups. From there Ron told James and the band to get out and they left. The other version is that James Lars and Dave kicked Ron out of the band because Ron just wasn't really into it. Something everyone here probably knows is that Ron played on the No Life 'Til Leather demo tape. Ron was also a rodie for James' first band obsession. James taught Ron how to play bass and according to Ron, James also taught lars how to play drums at first. He said they speant the summer of '81 working with Lars to get him good enough to play.

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Posted by D-Man on 12/05/04 @ 10:35 PM    Post subject: Re: Im a MEGADETH fan that used to like metallica

Let me guess, Kirk isn't "too good at soloing" because Mustaine wrote all the stuff he plays.

For someone who seems to have read up on a lot of stuff about the bands, I'd expect less outrageous comments from you. (ex: Mustaine writing The Four Horsemen lyrics)

stealing songs from others (not only from dave mustaine, but kirk also stole most of the concepts for creeping deth from his prevoius band, exodus i believe, and exodus didnt use any of the material that kirk helped write until metallica pulled that stunt. and also thier napster stunt. how did they get known again? underground music trading. what was napster? underground music trading. any more brain busters?

How can Kirk steal something HE WROTE? That's not stealing.

So what if they made it big by underground music trading? They didn't have any records when they were big in the underground scene, how else do you think they would've become popular. (FYI, the No Life 'til Leather demo tape was what made them big in the underground scene). When you realise actual records, people are supposed to buy them, not just walk into the store and take them. (Which is what downloading music is pretty much)

And about that whole thing... they dropped the suit, in case you didn't know. And Lars has recently mentioned in interviews he doesn't mind downloading music anymore, he even went on to talk about how he has his own MP3 player with downloaded music.

lars is as much of a dick as anyman could every hope to be. and he also sucks at drums. im kinda wondering why he didnt want a certian scene to be used in the "somekind of monster movie"...

Are you an idiot? What scene??

It was Dave that didn't want a "certain" scene to be in the movie, not Lars.

Do some more reading, kid. That is, if your parents let you.

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Posted by shalfordgooner on 12/05/04 @ 07:37 PM    Post subject: Re: dream setlists

THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN
MetClub only gig!!!!

Okay the venue is a hall with about 3,000 capacity. the stage setup is the Puppetz tour stage. No seating, very Cheap beer and Slayer as support  :D

Ecstacy plays blah blah the usual.
1) Call of the Ktulu(Lights out. Sound of wind played on the P.A system. Spotlight shines on a shadowy figure. The opening notes of Ktulu play, The figure turns out to be Jaymz. Spotlights then shine on each band member as they enter the song)
2) Disposable Heros
Jaymz then banters with the crowd a bit making them count into
3)Creeping Death
4)Hero of the Day
Jaymz askes do the crowd know this one and starts playing
5) Master of Puppets (The crowd do!)
6) Jungle-essence
which straight into
7) Orion
which leads straight into
8 ) Whiplash
Band tease the crowd with the opening of escape and a bit of ...and justice for all
9)Invisible Kid
Jaymz then says that this song has never been played before. the crowd go crazy chanting escape but it turns out to be
10) Attitude
11) One
Strobe lighting starts with the opening to
12) Enter Sandman
The band then leave the stage

The band return 2 mins later and ask for a very special freind to join them on stage. This special friend happens to be Mr. Jason Newstead. The band with Jason on bass (Rob's having a break) play
13)My Freind of Misery
Rob returns on bass and Jason just sings
14)Seek & Destroy
All 5 members embrace and pose for cameres. Jason departs
15) Some kind of Monster
16) Outlaw Torn
Jaymz then says this song has not been played in full for 15 years. The crowd expect AJFA but instead get
17)Eye of the Beholder
18 ) Kirks Solo
19) ...And Justice For All
Band say goodbye

Band return and they kick straight in with
20) Escape
Larz calls for two very old freinds to join them on stage. HOLY SHIT its Ron McGoverny and Dave Mustaine. Rob & Kirk stand aside. This is as Jaymz anounces No Life Til Leather revisited!
21) The Mechanix
22) Hit the Lights
Rob & Kirk return with Jason. The band now consists of 3 Guitarists and 3 bassists and 1 drummer. They then all jam on
23) Am I evil
Old members leave and the band end with one more
24) Dyers Eve
All members old and new join on the stage, embrace and pose. This has been on unBELEVEable night. Thank you and goodnight!

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Posted by TheCreepingDeath on 12/06/04 @ 03:13 PM    Post subject: Re: dream setlists

THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN
MetClub only gig!!!!

Okay the venue is a hall with about 3,000 capacity. the stage setup is the Puppetz tour stage. No seating, very Cheap beer and Slayer as support  :D

Ecstacy plays blah blah the usual.
1) Call of the Ktulu(Lights out. Sound of wind played on the P.A system. Spotlight shines on a shadowy figure. The opening notes of Ktulu play, The figure turns out to be Jaymz. Spotlights then shine on each band member as they enter the song)
2) Disposable Heros
Jaymz then banters with the crowd a bit making them count into
3)Creeping Death
4)Hero of the Day
Jaymz askes do the crowd know this one and starts playing
5) Master of Puppets (The crowd do!)
6) Jungle-essence
which straight into
7) Orion
which leads straight into
8 ) Whiplash
Band tease the crowd with the opening of escape and a bit of ...and justice for all
9)Invisible Kid
Jaymz then says that this song has never been played before. the crowd go crazy chanting escape but it turns out to be
10) Attitude
11) One
Strobe lighting starts with the opening to
12) Enter Sandman
The band then leave the stage

The band return 2 mins later and ask for a very special freind to join them on stage. This special friend happens to be Mr. Jason Newstead. The band with Jason on bass (Rob's having a break) play
13)My Freind of Misery
Rob returns on bass and Jason just sings
14)Seek & Destroy
All 5 members embrace and pose for cameres. Jason departs
15) Some kind of Monster
16) Outlaw Torn
Jaymz then says this song has not been played in full for 15 years. The crowd expect AJFA but instead get
17)Eye of the Beholder
18 ) Kirks Solo
19) ...And Justice For All
Band say goodbye

Band return and they kick straight in with
20) Escape
Larz calls for two very old freinds to join them on stage. HOLY SHIT its Ron McGoverny and Dave Mustaine. Rob & Kirk stand aside. This is as Jaymz anounces No Life Til Leather revisited!
21) The Mechanix
22) Hit the Lights
Rob & Kirk return with Jason. The band now consists of 3 Guitarists and 3 bassists and 1 drummer. They then all jam on
23) Am I evil
Old members leave and the band end with one more
24) Dyers Eve
All members old and new join on the stage, embrace and pose. This has been on unBELEVEable night. Thank you and goodnight!


Beautiful man.. I am like one of the only people who actually likes Attitude!

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Posted by Symbiotic_Order on 10/23/04 @ 12:11 PM    Post subject: Re: Metallica copies megadeath



First, The reason Dave is getting hated on so much is because of his attitude. He is an asshole, its that simple. He has been holding a grudge for 20 years even though it was his own fault he was thrown out and he also had one of the most sucessful metal bands ever and is not satisfied. Dave started megadeth to get back at james and lars for throwing him out and he has admitted to this. No way did he create the sound of metallica. That was more james than anyone cause megadeth sounds so much different. When he was in metallica, he pretty much only did solo's just like kirk did until later on. Thats how lead guitarists worked back in the 80's. Kirk didnt write any solo's on kill em all, but did give them some flavor cause all dave did was play fast boring scales with hardly any dynamics at all. Thats what kirk did for metallica, played metal solo's differently than every other band at the time. As for the songs sounding the same, the only ones I know are mechanix/four horseman which metallica did steal, but it wasnt copywrited or anything so its legal. They also did come out with the song first, so they win. He did write alot of the solo's on kill em all, but ive heard him play 3 songs from kill em all and kirk destroys him. He fits them so much better. Call of kutulu/hanger 18 is another that is very similar, but for whom the bell tolls/darkest hour sound nothing alike. I really like both and can play all the rhythyms perfectly. They are nothing alike. There are a few others I saw on a site, but those 2 are the only 2 I agree with. Dave can get alittle credit for the sound of kill em all and a little for RTL. But I dont think metallica really got into their sound til Master and he has no part of that. Megadeths first few albums sound alot like kill em all. Metallica was far ahead of them with their sound. Dave also didnt do anything classically for any band. That was all cliff for metallica. Their wasnt really any classical stuff for megadeth til marty friedman came. So he gets no credit for that either. Metallica changed for the better when dave left and for the worse when cliff died. That simple. I like megadeth, but I dont like Dave. He is a good musician, ok lead guitarist (at best), but he's just so pissed off all the time even though he is one of the biggest metal legends. If dave would have stayed, there would have been no megadeth and I dont think metallica would have been as good. And Exodus would have been better too!!

Let's be honest here, Dave Mustaine or Kirk Hammett aren't going to be releasing solo albums any time soon.  They simply aren't that talented.  The difference between Mustaine and Hammett was that Mustaine could recruit great guitar players and drummers into his band at will.  Chris Poland.  Marty Friedman.  Both of these guitarists are in a totally different league than Mustaine or Hammett.  That's why Mustaine went from the LEAD guitarist of Metallica to the RHYTHM guitarist of Megadeth.  As for who was better between Hammett and Mustaine, remember that by the time Mustaine had ONE album out he already had his own line of guitars that METALLICA used for the recording of Master of Puppets.

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Posted by dptain on 12/16/04 @ 10:23 PM    Post subject: Message From Dave Mustaine

I was on the Megadeth forum and could not believe how hard the death of Dimebag had affected Dave. Dave does posts on the forum himself and what he said was mind blowing!! Being of fan of both Megadeth and Metallica for almost twenty yrs I was glad to hear it!!!
This is the post along with the link for those who may think it is a hoax!!
Dave Mustaine:

"Droogies!

Tonight I had the honor and priveledge to host a special tribute to the life of Darrel “Dimebag” Abbott.

I went out to NYC Thursday at 9:30 PM on a redeye to do this, and during the period since then, I have had a good amount of time to reflect on my own life.

I realized how fortunate I am, and have been to have met some of you, and in some cases become friends with many of you.

What is bothering me is the people who I have not been able to meet, or worse, have met and ended up not being friends with. There are many.

I would like to, in honor of Darrel's life, learn from him and how many friends he apparently had made.

Over my career I have a lot of cleaning up to do on my side of the street as well as letting things go, for once and for all; I need to apologize to many people and also to forgive and quit holding grudges.

Having said that, if there is something I did to you or someone you know, please give me the opportunity to make this right.

To Slayer and Metallica: I am sorry for whatever I may have done in the past and wish to make it right, to put it behind us. Please let me know how and when we can talk this out.

To previous bandmembers and managers: I say the same to you.

To all the Megadeth/Metallica fans: from this day forward, there will never be another unkind word from my mouth perpetuating this silly 22 year old feud.

And to heavy metal fans around the world: I am going to emulate Dimebag by being more like him; more friendly, and more interested in your lives too, I promise.

I am grateful to have been asked to come in this hour of darkness to represent us all as we come together and heal as a worldwide music community, and I would be a fraud if I didn't say I need to do more to better “represent.”

Thank you in advance for your forgiveness and for your support,

Dave Mustaine"
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Posted by TheCreepingDeath on 10/31/04 @ 05:42 PM    Post subject: Re: Let me see some litsts, fellow metalli-maniacs

Yeah, I'm bored as well.

Best Bands:

1)Metallica
2)Led Zeppelin
3)Iron Maiden
4)Dream Theater
5)Megadeth

Best Albums:

1)Metallica - Master Of Puppets
2)Megadeth - Rust In Peace
3)Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory
4)Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast
5)Radiohead - OK Computer

Best Songs:

1) Metallica - One
2) Megadeth - Holy Wars
3) Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven
4) Metallica - Fade To Black
5) Pantera - Cemetery Gates

Best Lyricists:

1)Metallica - JAMES HETFIELD
2)Dream Theater - JOHN MYUNG
3)Megadeth - DAVE MUSTAINE
4)Nirvana - KURT COBAIN
5)TOOL - whoever writes them

Best Vocalists

1)James Hetfield - METALLICA
2)Robert Plant - LED ZEPPELIN
3)James LaBrie - DREAM THEATER
4)Kurt Cobain - NIRVANA
5)King Diamond - MERCYFUL FATE/KING DIAMOND

Favorite Guitarists

1)Kirk Hammett
2)John Petrucci
3)Dave Mustaine
4)Jimmy Page
5)Joe Satriani

Favorite Bassists

1)Cliff Burton
2)Rob Trujillo
3)John Paul Jones
4)Jason Newstead
5)John Myung

Favorite Drummers

1)Lars Ulrich
2)John Bonham
3)Mike Portnoy
4)Dave Lombardo
5)NICHOLAS BARKER (most amazing double bass ever)


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Posted by ZeroOfTheDay on 10/31/04 @ 05:50 PM    Post subject: Re: Let me see some litsts, fellow metalli-maniacs

hey hey :D

your lists are very alike mine!

Best Lyricists:

1)Metallica - JAMES HETFIELD
2)Dream Theater - JOHN MYUNG
3)Megadeth - DAVE MUSTAINE
4)Nirvana - KURT COBAIN
5)TOOL - whoever writes them


that's so close it's scary! you even think JM is the best DT lyricist...

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Posted by dansj882 on 10/23/04 @ 02:31 PM    Post subject: Re: Let me see some litsts, fellow metalli-maniacs

I'm going to make some top 5 lists:
Best bands:
1) Metallica
2) Muse
3) Faith No More
4) Extreme
5) Megadeth

Best albums:
1) Metallica - S&M
2) Extreme - Pornograffiti
3) Muse - Showbiz
4) Faith No More - Album of the year
5) Iron Maiden - Dance of Death

Best songs: (not in order)
1) Guns n Roses - November Rain
2) Extreme - More Than Words
3) Metallica - Hero of the day S&M
4) Muse - Unintended
5) Faith No More - Everythings Ruined, Evidence

Best lyricists:
1) James Hetfield, Metallica
2) Dave Mustaine, Megadeth
3) Mike Patton, Faith No More, Mr Bungle etc
4) Gary Cherone of Extreme (i think its him)
5) Guns n roses lyrics
 
Singers/vocalists:
1) Matt Bellamy - Muse
2) James Hetfield - Metallica
3) Mike Patton - Faith No More etc
4) G4 from the X-factor!
5) Dexter Holland - offspring

Guitarists: (favourites, not necesarilly the best)
1) Joe Satriani
2) Steve Vai
3) Kirk Hammett
4) Slash
5) Jeff Beck

Bassists:
1) Cliff Burton
2) Jason Newstead  
3) Chris Wolstenhome
4) Billy Gould
 
Keyboardists:
1) Matt Bellamy
2) Keyboardist from Children of Bodom
3) Roddy Bottum


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Posted by jiwamet on 12/06/04 @ 09:56 PM    Post subject: Re: Old demo tapes with Cliff Burton released

Such tapes were key to Metallica's songwriting process. Burton, singer-guitarist James Hetfield and lead guitarist Kirk Hammett (and his predecessor, Dave Mustaine) would record them, and bandleaders Hetfield and drummer Lars Ulrich would then sift through them to construct songs.  This really great!

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Posted by Spike on 10/03/04 @ 05:55 PM    Post subject: Re: Why haven't They Released a Live Album

bay area trashers, with dave mustaine on vocals is live too.

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Posted by Mq_Mq_Mq on 12/05/04 @ 01:17 AM    Post subject: Re: Metallica as kids

James
http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/jamesbaby.jpg


note the hand sign \m/
hehe
and...Dave Mustaine lloks like a friend from HighSchool LOL!

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  View entire thread: if cliff were alive...
Posted by +steve_burton+ on 11/14/04 @ 01:31 PM    Post subject: Re: if cliff were alive...

Well in my oppinion he was, your entitled to your oppinion, theren isnt a fact that Cliff is the ebst bassist of all time etc etc but theres oppinions and thats what i think.  Plus my favourite album is Master of Puppets and the FACT is most of that album was of Cliff composition.  James couldnt have wrote the song for Master of Puppets as the whole song relies on Cliffs bass playing.  My second bassist is Steve Harris and even Dave Mustaine himself said he was the enw ''Steve Harris of Metal'' and thats coming from one of the greatest guitar players of all time.  It didnt matter if Cliff just played Bass too the songs in Kill em All, it was Cliff who played the Bass, who played the bass solos, who made them reach the sky.  Its just like you saying, Kirk Hammet didnt have a major part in Kill em All cos' Dave Mustaine had already wrote all of the shit, the point is Kirk played them too his style and he fucking nailed them.  Cliff is the greatest in my oppinion and he will never be ebaten.  I respect your oppinion, i just dont agree with it :D

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  View entire thread: More support for Dimebag
Posted by mooseheadtrail on 12/11/04 @ 10:34 AM    Post subject: More support for Dimebag

VENOM - “We are all in shock at the very sad news of the shooting at the DamagePlan concert, this news has left everyone feeling numb, all of Venom offer their sympathy to the families of the deceased & injured.” Cronos commented: "I'm devastated by this news, DamagePlan are all good mates, I've known Dimebag since the early days of Pantera, he was such a great bloke, words can't
describe how sad I feel."

DESTRUCTION - “Only the god die young. Your music will live on in the heads and hearts of the metal community! R.I.P. "Dimebag" Darrell.”

GOD AMONG INSECTS - “Dimebag Darrell 1966 - 2004. Rest in peace. Our hearts go out to the family and friends of Dimebag Darrell. Rest in peace, man.

Wherever you are.”

IN FLAMES - “Our deepest thoughts and sympathies goes out to friends and families of the victims in the terrible tragedy in Ohio. // In Flames"

BARRY SPARKS - “We had a great show last night in Spokane, but unfortunately the happy mood of the night changed just as we were getting ready to leave. We heard the tragic news about "Dimebag" Darrell and the other victims of the shooting in Columbus Ohio. I still find it hard to believe someone could be this deranged and evil or just plain stupid?? Our thoughts and prayers go out to the band, friends and family members. God bless you Dimebag Darrell. Barry.”

MOTORHEAD - “The music world was saddened today by last evenings events in Columbus, OH. All of us at imotorhead.com wish to convey our deepest sympathies to the families of those that died. Lemmy, Mikkey & Phil also asked us to post these thoughts:

“To Vinnie & All Concerned:

Man, I am so fuckin sorry. You know I loved Dimebag and I'm about as sorry as you can get. Glad you're OK though. If there's anything you need help with, you got my number somewhere, OK. Thinking of you.
Regards, condolences - Lemmy.”

“I'm so sorry, we'll dedicate the set to Dimebag tonight. - Phil Campbell.”

“My deepest sympathy to everyone affected by this tragedy. Mikkey Dee.”

SUPERJOINT RITUAL
A message regarding Dimebag Darrell's death from one of the camps DAMAGEPLAN and PANTERA fans have been waiting to hear from. SUPERJOINT RITUAL's Hank Williams III has posted the following statement at the band's official website:

"It just ain't fuckin' right. Alcohol should have killed Dime, not a fuckin piece of shit worthless fuck with a gun trying to recreate the John Lennon's killing. This  happened on the same day, if you didnt know. Dime will never die EVER!!! His style of guitar playing took metal to a whole new chapter in metal history.

For those of us that were lucky enough to be around Dime as a person, or see him jam in no matter what band it was, you know he liked to have a good time. In his honor, crank up his fuckin music and get motherfuckin wasted on whiskey!!!!!!!

And no matter what was said with all the shit talking between Superjoint Ritual and Damageplan, that's all it was, nothing but talk!! If we had ever been in the same room together as both bands, it would have been cool. Kinda like seeing 'ole family.... I'm sure there will be plenty of new rumors surfacing and fingers pointing at people to blame, but Philip (Anselmo) and the rest of Superjoint Ritual are in a state of shock and blown away by this tragedy! We do not take this shit lightly... What this kid did is so fucked up its not even conceivable. May you burn in the hottest corners of hell, you pistol-packin' pussyfuck...

R.I.P Dimebag. You rocked harder than you will ever know!!!!"


OZZY OSBOURNE - "It's Just Terribly, Terribly Sad ... Dimebag was a dear friend of mine," Ozzy Osbourne said. "I'm absolutely beside myself with grief. I can't for the life of me understand why someone would do this. Pantera toured with me many, many times. I'll always remember the signed guitar that he gave me at my 50th birthday party. My heart goes out to Dime's family, his fans and the other innocent victims who were killed in this senseless tragedy. It's just terribly, terribly sad."

BYZANTINE - “I had a friend call me last night from Ohio to tell me that one of our idols had been shot to death. Dimebag Darrell, who most likely all of us looked up to and wanted to drink with, was dead. He and 4 others had been shot and killed while Damageplan were playing a concert in very nearby Columbus, OH. This guy walked straight on stage, yelled at Dime, and then shot him point blank in the head. All the while his fans had to watch in horror. Let's all take today to put on some Pantera or Damageplan and remember the coolest, most down to earth, closest thing to a REAL rockstar that you could ever find. Long live Darrell Abbott.

We love you brother. If Stevie Ray Vaughan would have picked up a KISS album instead of blues, you would get Dimebag Darrell.”

MACHINE HEAD - “Machine Head are devastated by the horrific news. Our deepest sympathy and condolences to the Abbott family, Damageplan and former members of Pantera. Our thoughts are with you all.”

KEVIN SHIRLEY (Producer) - “JESUS CHRIST! I just saw Dimebag Darrel was shot and killed at a gig in Ohio last night - that is terrible news. I am saddened and shocked. My deepest sympathy and condolences to all his family - I just mixed a Damageplan track for the Punisher soundtrack earlier this year. Oh, that breaks my heart! SHIT! Enough of the fucking guns already! This is bad.”

ANTHRAX’ Scott Ian - "I am devastated as I'm sure we all are. All I can convey at this moment are my condolences to Rita and Vinnie and the whole family. My heart is with you. Love, Scott"

ZAKK WYLDE - "We lost Dime tonight. We have no official details, and I personally am not saying anything. I want to thank Shawn Sexton (Sierra Nevada) from sdmfworldwide.com for calling Chad Lee and I in Chicago and bringing it to our attention, first and foremost. Right now, I myself, and the entire Doome Crew Inc., those I've spoken to, can't even begin to try to fuckin' assemble words in sentences to tell you guys how we feel. Give us a few days to circle the wagons. Whatever comes across officially from the family will be conveyed, as always, humbly by us."

KILLSWITCH ENGAGE’s Howard Jones - "This is insane and this is beyond travesty. This is beyond anything I've ever heard. This shouldn't happen in or outside of the rock and metal community. He will be missed and mourned as a person, as a musician, and as a friend."

MEGADETH’s Dave Mustaine - “There is nothing unique or clever to this post, and what I want to say has no doubt already been said throughout the metal community, by countless others whom were more closer to Darrell than me by now. However, knowing he was murdered tonight, I wish to thank and remember Darrell for his amazing life and the gift that he shared with me and so many other fortunates. I pray for Darrell's family and friends; specifically for their healing, their peace, and their understanding of this tragedy in this time of need. I send my deepest heartfelt condolences to the Abbott family, to Darrell's friends, and to the fantastic PANTERA and DAMAGEPLAN fans around the world. We must never forget his life, and his gifts, his genius, his terrific personality, and the legacy he left
behind to remember him by. Darrell, I will see you in heaven and I, like so many more, love you brother. You will be missed.”

SATYRICON - "The show tomorrow in Colmbus, Ohio is naturally cancelled as the venue is now a crime scene. No other shows will be affected. Do not let this tragedy stop you from going to metal shows and don`t let anyone tell you that this has ANYTHING to do with metal music."

TYPE O NEGATIVE
Here's to you, Darrell
The staff at ton.net are shocked and speechless at the senseless loss of Darrell and the rest of the victims from Tuesday Night...we would like to express our deepest regards and sympathy to their family and friends in this confusing and troubled time.

Johnny asked to have this posted:

I'm not really sure what to say or how to put it in words to describe what I'm feeling at the moment. The world has lost a genuine person, one of the true greats. We've lost a great friend, some have lost an idol, but more tragic than any of that, a father lost his son & Vinnie lost his brother. Since Type O Negative first toured with Pantera in 1995, both bands have remained close friends. No matter how much time would pass, whenever we would get together it always seemed like we had just seen each other the night before. Touring with them was an amazing experience that I still talk about ten years later. I have so many memories of Darrell and all of it included laughter. Hanging out with Darrell, Rita, Vinnie, Pantera and Damageplan was always an adventure. You never knew what was going to happen but it usually wound up with your stomach hurting from laughing so much and a really nasty hangover in the morning.
I know that Darrell was an amazing guitar player and many know him just for that. I would have to take a step back every once in a while to see him for that because that wasn't how I knew him. I knew him to be a very enthusiastic, generous, animated and one of the funniest guys that just happened to be one of the greatest guitarists of our time. He had a way with people that after you met him, you became a part of his family. We always considered him family and we're devastated.
Heaven definitely has its hands full now that Darrell's shown up.
Even though I have written this about Dime, I want to send our condolences to the families and friends of the others that were so senselessly taken away from us on Wednesday night.

Johnny

MIKE PORTNOY (DREAM THEATER)
I wasn't gonna post anything because this whole tragedy isn't about me or how I feel..
and I feel so helpless and insignificant at such an unbelievable time as this...
But after sitting in front of my computer screen in disbelief for the last 24 hours since I heard about this last night I finally felt I needed to at least acknowledge how absolutely horrible I feel about this nightmare.
Actually, I am sick to my stomach.

Dime was an incredible talent who I've admired since the beginning when we had both just signed to Atco Records. It's been many years since I've hung with him or any of the Pantera guys - but my memories with him and the guys were always of great fun and filled with crazy drunken insanity.
He lived each and everyday to the fullest. In fact, I never could believe how he could even function (both on and off stage) with the way he partied and lived life.

I feel so sorry for Vinnie and the rest of the band and family.

Words really cannot describe the heartache I've had all day.
This is as tragic and unbelievable as Lennon getting killed.
But this hits home even closer because he was ONE OF US.

I really cannot believe it...  

MP








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  View entire thread: Your bootleg list
Posted by puppet138 on 11/23/04 @ 07:51 AM    Post subject: Re: Your bootleg list

I have about 12 more to add, but this is about it


March 14 1982 (Live Practice)
September 17 1982 San Fran
September 18 1982 San Fran
October 18 1982 Night of the Rivett Heads
November 29 1982 San Fran
November 30 1982 San Fran
Horsemen of the Apocalypse (82-82 Demos)
March 04 1983 Dave Mustaine
March 05 1983 San Fran California Cliff’s First Show
March 19 1983 San Francisco
April 08 1983 NY
April 09 1983 Daves Last Show Brooklyn New York
April 16 1983 Kirks First Show Dover New Jersey
April 22 1983 Staten Island
July 29 1983 Yonkers New York
August 05 1983 NY
Aug 06 1983 L'Amours, Brooklyn, New York  
August 10 1983 Baltimore  
August 30 1983 California
September 02 1983 Berkeley California
September 04 1983 New York
November 04 1983 California
November 07 1983 San Fran
November 25 1983 Berkeley
November 26 1983 San Fran
December 15 1983 Broadway Jacks
December 18 1983 Cliff Interview
December 18 1983 Agora Ballroom Cleveland, OH (Metallica Vault)
December 30 1983 Aberdeen NJ
December 31 1983 NY
January 13 1984 Baltimore Maryland
January 21 1984 New York
January 22 1984 Boston MA
February 05 1984 Italy
February 07 1984 Nierenberg Germany
February 09 1984 Paris
February 11 1984  ijsselhal,zwolle,Holland
February 12 1984 poperinge, belgium
March 27 1984 London England
April 08 1984 Marquee, London, England
June 07 1984 Frankfurt Germany
June 08 1984 Oldenzall Holland
June 09 1984 zwaagwesteinde, holland
June 10 1984 Belgium
July 20 1984 Mabuhay Gardens, San Francisco, California  
August 03 1984 Roseland NY
November 18 1984 Escape Ballard, Paris, France
November 21 1984 France
November 23 1984  grand parc, bordeaux, france
November 25 1984 Nice France
November 27 1984 Tetro Tenda, Milano
November 30 1984 Zurich Switzerland
December 01 1984 Mainz Germany
December 03 1984 Mannheim Germany
December 05 1984 Koln Germany
December 08 1984 Osnabruck Germany
December 12 1984 Stockholm Sweden
December 14 1984 Tarvasjoki Finland
December 15 1984 Iloharju, Kaavi (Finland)
December 16 1984 Helsinki Finland
December 20 1984 Lyceum London UK
January 02 1985 Detroit
January 10 1985 NY
January 13 1985 Baltimore Maryland
January 15 1985 Montreal Quebec
January 16 1985 Montreal
January 18 1985 Civic Center, Ottawa, Canada  
January 19 1985 Toronto
January 25 1985 Elmhurst NY
January 27 1985 L’Amours Brooklyn New York
January 30 1985 Indianapolis Indiana
February 01 1985 Detroit
February 05 1985 Madison Wisconsin
February 07 1985 Cleveland
February 09 1985 Argon Ballroom Chicago
March 03 1985 Grand Central Station, Albuquerque, New Mexico
March 09 1985 San Diego
March 10 1985 Hollywood Palladium, Hollywood, ca
March 14 1985 San Fran
March 15 1985 San Fran California
March 17 1985 Seattle
March 18 1985 Vancouver
April 28 1985 L'Amours, Brooklyn, NYC
May 02 1985 Madison Wisconsin
July 02 1985 Cleveland
August 17 1985 Donington Park Donington
August 24 1985 Ruthie's Inn, San Francisco, California
August 31 1985 Day on the Green Oakland California
September 03 1985 San Diego
September 14 1985 Rheine Germany
December 31 1985 San Francisco
January 12 1986 New York
March 27 1986 Wichita Kansas
March 29 1986 Oklahoma City Oklahoma
April 04 1986 Detroit
April 08 1986 Indianapolis
April 13 1986 Syracuse
April 14 1986 Rochester
April 16 1986 Landover
April 20 1986 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
April 24 1986 Coliseum, New Haven, Connecticut  
April 27 1986 Glen Falls New York
April 28 1986 Long Island New York
May 04 1986 Chicago
May 12 1986 Puppets in El Paso
May 24 1986 Cape Girardeau (Metallica Vault)
May 26 1986 Iowa
May 28 1986 Orpheum Theatre, Minneapolis, Minnesota
May 30 1986 Davenport
June 10 1986 San Diego
June 13 1986 Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California  
June 15 1986 Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California  
June 21 1986 San Francisco. Metallica as Spastic Children
July 06 1986 Roskilde Denmark
July 16 1986 Ft Wayne Indiana
September 11 1986 Bradford England
September 12 1986 Edinburgh Scotland
September 15 1986 Belfast Ireland
September 17 1986 Manchester England
September 21 1986 London England (Metallica Vault)
September 24 1986 Lund Sweden
September 26 1986 Stockholm Sweden (Cliffs Last Show)
November 08 1986 Reseda California Jason’s 1st Show
November 09 1986 Jezabelle's, Anaheim, California
November 15 1986 Shibuya Kokaido, Tokyo
November 20 1986 Tokyo
November 21 1986 London UK Hammersmith Odeon
November 28 1986 Mid Hudson Civic Center, Poughkeepsie, New York  
December 01 1986 New York
December 07 1986 Victoriaville
December 09 1986 Toronto
December 13 1986 Winnipeg Manitoba
December 19 1986 Toronto Ontario
January 08 1987 Copenhagen
January 09 1987 Denmark
January 14 1987 France
January 16 1987 Bordeaux France
January 21 1987 Milano palatrussardi
January 25 1987 Essen Germany
January 27 1987 Hamberg Germany
January 29 1987 Frankfurt Germany
January 30 1987 Ludwigshafen Germany
February 04 1987 Clermont Ferrand France
February 05 1987 Paris France
February 07 1987 Bruxelles Belgium
February 08 1987 Zwolle Holland
February 10 1987 Poland
February 13 1987 Gothenburg Se Frolundaborg (Metallica Vault)
August 02 1987 Zwolle Holland
August 20 1987 London England 100 Club
August 22 1987 Donnington
August 29 1987 Nuremburg Germany
August 30 1987 Pforzheim Germany
May 24 1988 Los Angeles California  
May 27 1988 Alpine Valley East Troy Wisconsin
May 28 1988 Alpine Valley East Troy Wisconsin
June 05 1988 Tampa Stadium Tampa Florida
June 11 1988 JFK Stadium Philadelphia Pennsylvania
June 12 1988 Sullivan Stadium Boston Massachusetts
June 26 1988 Giants Stadium NY
July 03 1988 Texas
September 11 1988 Budapest Hungary
September 14 1988 Milano Italy
September 21 1988 Montpellier France
September 22 1988 Barcellona
September 25 1988 Edinburgh Scotland
September 26 1988 bradford, england (calling all destroyers)
September 30 1988 Sheffield England
October 08 1988 Manchester
October 13 1988 Copenhagen Denmark
October 15 1988 Helsinki Finland
October 18 1988 Oslo
October 19 1988 Sweden
October 21 1988 Munich Germany
October 26 1988 Cologne Germany
October 29 1988 Belgium
November 01 1988 Festhalle Frankfurt Germany
November 03 1988 Donauhalle Regensburg, Germany
November 05 1988 Groenoordhal  Leiden, Holland
November 15 1988 Sports Arena Toledo Ohio
November 22 1988 Mecca Arena Milwaukee Wisconsin
November 24 1988 Market Square Arena Indianapolis Indiana
November 26 1988 Richfield Coliseum Cleveland Ohio
November 29 1988 Municipal Auditorium Kansas City Missouri
November 30 1988 Myriad Oklahoma City Oklahoma
December 04 1988 Phoenix AZ
December 07 1988 Long Beach California
December 08 1988 Long Beach California
December 12 1988 Sacramento
January 10 1989 Quebec City
January 20 1989 Lubbock Texas
January 22 1989 Civic Centre Amarillo Texas
January 28 1989 Expo Square Pavilion Tulsa Oklahoma
February 03 1989 Erwin Events Centre Austin Texas
February 04 1989 San Antonio
February 05 1989 Reunion Arena Dallas Texas
February 12 1989 Miami Florida
February 22 1989 Live in los angeles, shrine auditorium
February 26 1989 coliseum - charlotte, north carolina
March 04 1989 pittsburgh
March 07 1989 rochester, ny
March 08 1989 nassau coliseum - uniondale, new york
March 09 1989 Landover MD
March 15 1989 RPI Fieldhouse Troy NY
March 16 1989 Worchester MA
March 17 1989 Hartford Connecticut
March 29 1989 Providence Rhode Island
April 01 1989 Moncton New Brunswick
April 04 1989 Halifax Nova Scotia
April 07 1989 Maple Leaf Gardens Toronto Ontario
April 10 1989 Québec City Quebec
May 03 1989 Adelaide Australia
May 04 1989 Melbourne Australia
May 11 1989 Kawasaki Japan
May 13 1989 Tokyo Japan
May 14 1989 Tokyo Japan
May 17 1989 Osaka Japan
May 18 1989 Nagoya Japan
June 06 1989 Winnipeg Manitoba
June 08 1989 Deluth MN
June 24 1989 Alpine Valley East Troy Wisconsin
July 14 1989 Orange County Fairground Middleton New York
July 16 1989 Cayuga County Fairground Weedsport New York
July 21 1989 Meadowlands East Rutherford NJ
July 29 1989 Allentown Pennsylvania
August 07 1989 Stoned Balloon Newark Delaware
August 12 1989 buckeye lake music center - hebron, ohio
August 29-30 1989 Seattle Washington
September 14 1989 Pavilion - Concord, California
September 15 1989 Mountain View The Shoreline Amp
October 06 1989 Projeto SP, Sao Paulo, Brazil  
October 07 1989 Projeto SP, Sao Paulo, Brazil
May 11 1990 London England
May 16 1990 Zwolle Holland
May 20 1990 Leiden Netherlans
May 21 1990 omnisports de bercy, paris, france
May 26 1990 Glasgow
June 29 1990 Toronto Canada
June 30 1990 rochester,ny
February 11 1991 Detroit
August 10 1991 Denmark
August 13 1991 Poland Monsters of Rock
August 17 1991 Donington
August 22 1991 The Court of Attila Budapest
September 07 1991
September 17 1991 storm at walhalla live dortmund
September 21 1991 Paris France
September 28 1991 Moscow Russia
October 12 1991 Oakland California
November 02 1991 Detroit Michigan
December 31 1991 Tokyo
January 13 1992 San Diego
January 18 1992 New Orleans
February 16 1992 Reno
February 29 1992 Rhode Island
March 13 1992 Los Angeles California
April 14 1992 Hamilton Ontario
May 11 1992 Birmingham England
August 11 1992 Rotterdam
October 10 1992 Wembley
October 25 1992 Wembley England
November 08 1992 Rotterdam
November 24 1992 Dortmund
December 03 1992  ostseehalle, kiel, germany
December 14 1992 Mainheim Germany
December 16 1992 Helsinki Finland
December 18 1992 Stockholm Sweden
March 26 1993 Auckland
May 04 1993 Santiago De Chilie
May 06 1993 milton Keynes
May 07 1993 buenos aires, argentina
May 08 1993 Buenos Aires Argentina
June 05 1993 Milton Keynes
June 20 1993 Basel Switzerland
June 27 1993 Athens Greece
May 30 1994 Buffalo
June 07 1994 Allentown Pennsylvania
June 08 1994 Enter Hell Long Island
June 17 1994 Middleton New York Country Fairgrounds (Metallica Vault)
July 27 1994 Phoenix Arizona
August 11 1994 Miami
August 13 1994 Woodstock
August 19 1994 Atlanta
August 21 1994 Miami Florida
August 20 1995 Donington
August 23 1995 london astoria ii, loud but secret
August 25 1995 Donington
August 26 1995 Donington Park UK
December 13 1995 The Plant Studios, Sausalito, California
December 14 1995  lemmy tribute show
February 21 1996 Los Angeles
May 31 1996 Toronto
June 09 1996 San Fran
June 24 1996 Louie's Bar, Aberdeen, Washington
June 29 1996 Waldrock Festival Holland
June 30 1996 Sims Club
July 11 1996 New York
September 12 1996 Kiel Germany
September 23 1996 Barcellona
September 28 1996 Italy
September 29 1996 Turin Italy
October 06 1996 Birmingham UK (Metallica Vault)
November 12 1996 Holland
November 15 1996 Stockholm
November 16 1996 Stockholm
November 23 1996 Oslo Norway
December 21 1996 Great Western Form Los Angeles California (Metallica Vault)
January 29 1997 Minneapolis
February 05 1997 Moline
February 14 1997 Cleveland
March 26 1997 Pittsburgh, pa @ star lake amphitheatre
May 09 1997 Fort Worth Texas
May 26 1997 Saskatoon Saskatchewan
August 23 1997 Germany – Blindmans Ball
August 24 1997 Reading UK
October 18 1997 Bridge School Benefit
November 13 1997 London
November 15 1997 Reload Launch
November 18 1997 Paris France
December 18 1997 Acoustic on the Radio
March 21 1998 Reload Rehearse Request California
April 24 1998 Seoul Korea
April 25 1998 Seoul Korea
April 30 1998 Osaka
MAy 02 1998 Hiroshima
May 08 1998 Japan
June 26 1998 Atlanta
July 05 1998 Illinois
July 08 1998 Cleveland Ohio (Metallica Vault)
July 17 1998 New York Giants Stadium
July 19 1998 Mansfield Massachusetts (Metallica Vault)
September 05 1998 Washington
September 13 1998 Padova Palasport
November 17 1998 Toronto Ontario
November 19 1998 Chicago
November 20 1998 The State Theater Detroit Michigan
November 23 1998 Philly
November 24 1998 New York
April 11 1999 Hawaii
April 12 1999 Hawaii
April 21-22 1999 Berkeley California
April 30 1999 Mexico
May 08 1999 Chile
May 12 1999 Santiago Chile
May 14 1999 Buenos Aires
May 21 1999 Nurnburg Germany (Metallica Vault)
May 22 1999 Nurburgring Germany
May 23 1999 Dynamo Eindhoven Holland
May 28 1999 Stockholm
June 11 1999 plovdiv, bulgaria
June 25 1999 St Gallen Switzerland
July 03 1999 Werchter Belgium
July 07 1999 Paris France
July 12 1999 Barcellona
July 16 1999 Portugal
July 20 1999 Tel Aviv
July 24 1999 Woodstock
November 19 1999 velodrom, berlin, germany
November 23 1999 New York
December 05 1999 en chile pista atletica
December 31 1999 Detroit
January 03 2000 Bradley Center, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
January 04 2000 Chicago
January 05 2000 Chicago
January 07 2000 Minneapolis Minnesota
January 09 2000 Target Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota (USA)
April 07 2000 Baltimore
June 23 2000 Seattle Washington Experience Music Project
July 01 2000 Minneapolis
July 03 2000 Gateway Speedway, St. Louis, Missouri
July 04 2000 Baltimore Maryland
July 07 2000 Atlanta NO JAMES
July 12 2000 Denver
July 14 2000 Summer Sanitarium San Fran
July 15 2000 Los Angeles
July 20 2000 East Rutherford, New Jersey
August 05 2000 Atlanta Georgia
September 01 2000 Mineapolis
January 19 2003 California Raiders Parking Lot
February 12 2003 Oslo Norway
May 01 2003 San Quentin State Prison
May 18 2003 San Francisco
May 19 2003 Fillmore San Fran California
May 21 2003 Fillmore San Fran California
May 22 2003 Fillmore San Fran California
May 31 2003 London Riverside Studios
June 06 2003 Nurnburg
June 07 2003 Berlin Germany
June 08 2003 Rock Am Ring
June 11 2003 la Boule Noire
June 11 2003 le Trabendo, Paris
June 11 2003  le Bataclan, Paris
June 12 2003 Gelredome, Arnhem
June 13 2003 Imola Italy
June 15 2003 nijmegen, Holland
June 21 2003 Barcellona
June 22 2003 Peineta Stadium Madrid
June 26 2003 Roskilde Denmark
June 28 2003 Rock Werchter
July 04 2003 Detroit Michegan
July 05 2003 Toronto
July 08 2003 East Rutherford New Jersey
July 12 2003 Philly
July 20 2003 parc jean drapeau, montreal, canada
July 27 2003 Minneapolis Minnesota
August 06 2003 Salt Lake City
August 09 2003 Los Angeles
August 15 2003 Salzburg Austria
August 16 2003 Rock am See, Konstanz, Germany
August 20 2003 Dublin Ireland
August 22 2003 Leeds England
August 24 2003 Reading Festival UK
October 13 2003 Dublin
November 06 2003 Yoyogi Daiichi Taiikukan Tokyo (Audio)
November 06 2003 Yoyogi Daiichi Taiikukan Tokyo (Video)
November 07 2003 Tokyo
November 09 2003 Sapporo Japan
November 11 2003 Saitama Japan
November 13 2003 Osaka Japan
November 14 2003 Nagoya Japan
December 02 2003 Oslo Norway
December 03 2003 Oslo Norway
December 05 2003 Hanover Germany
December 06 2003 Arnhem Netherlands
December 09 2003 omnisports de bercy, paris, france
December 11 2003 palamalaguti, bologna, italy
December 13 2003 Erfurt
December 14 2003 Mannheim Germany
December 16 2003 Cologne Germany
December 17 2003 Antwerp
December 19 2003 Earls Court Arena London
December 20 2003 Londres
December 31 2003 Las Vegas Nevada
January 16 2004 Aukland
January 21 2004 Entertainment Centre , Sydney, Australia
January 23 2004 Sydney Australia
January 28 2004 Melbourne Australia
January 30 2004 Adelaide, Australia Big Day Out
February 01 2004 Sydney Australia
March 02 2004 America West Arena, Phoenix, AZ
March 03 2004 T.C.C., Tucson, AZ
March 05 2004 The Forum, Los Angeles, CA
March 06 2004 The Forum, Los Angeles, CA
March 08 2004 Cow Palace, San Francisco, CA
March 10 2004 Arco Arena, Sacramento, CA
March 11 2004 Lawlor Events Center, Reno, NV
March 13 2004 Thomas and Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV
March 14 2004 Save Mart Center, Fresno, CA
March 18 2004 Rose Garden, Portland, OR
March 20 2004 Boise State Pavilion, Boise, ID
March 21 2004 Spokane Arena, Spokane, WA
March 23 2004 Rexall Place, Edmonton, AB Canada
March 24 2004 Saddledome, Calgary, AB Canada
March 26 2004 GM Place, Vancouver, BC Canada
March 28 2004 Key Arena, Seattle, WA
March 30 2004 Casper Events Center, Casper, WY
March 31 2004 Pepsi Center, Denver, CO
April 20 2004 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
April 21 2004 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
April 23 2004 Charlotte Coliseum, Charlotte, NC
April 24 2004 Roanoke Civic Center - Roanoke VA
April 26 2004 Norfolk Scope Arena - Norfolk VA
April 28 2004 Freedom Hall, Louisville, KY
April 29 2004 Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, MI
May 01 2004 US Bank Arena, Cincinnati, OH
May 02 2004 Alliant Energy Center, Madison, WI
May 06 2004 Saddledome, Calgary, AB Canada
May 07 2004 Saskatchewan Place, Saskatoon, SK Canada
May 09 2004 Winnipeg Arena, Winnipeg, MB Canada
May 11 2004 Kemper Arena, Kansas City, MO
May 12 2004 Qwest Center, Omaha, NE
May 14 2004 Ford Center, Oklahoma City, OK
May 15 2004 Alltel Arena, Little Rock, AR
May 26 2004 Parken, Copenhagen, DEN
May 30 2004 Gothenburg, Sweden
May 31 2004 Slaski Stadium, Chorzow, POL
May 31 2004 Chorzow Video
June 02 2004 Glasgo
June 04 2004 lisbon @ rock in rio-festival
June 06 2004 Download Festival
June 08 2004 Ludwigshafen Germany
June 10 2004 Gelsehnkirchen, Germany (arena auf schalke)
June 13 2004 Olympic Stadium, Munich, GER
June 15 2004 partizan stadion, belgrade, serbia
June 16 2004 Bremen Germany
June 18 2004 Zurich
June 19 2004 Zaragoza Spain
June 21 2004 Holland
June 23 2004  parc des princes, paris, france
June 25 2004 Dublin broadcast
June 29 2004 Padova Italy
July 01 2004 t-mobile park, prague, czech republic
July 02 2004 Werchter Germany
July 04 2004 Egilshollin, Reykjavik, ICE
August 16 2004 St Paul Minnisota
August 17 2004 Fargo ND
August 19 2004 Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
August 20 2004 Milwaukee
August 22 2004 Mark of the Quad Cities, Moline, IL
August 24 2004  peoria civic center, peoria, il
August 25 2004 Veteran's Memorial Coliseum, Ft. Wayne, IN
August 27 2004 Allstate Arena, Chicago, IL
August 28 2004 Allstate Arena, Chicago, IL
August 30 2004 Hilton Coliseum, Ames, IA
September 01 2004 Kansas Coliseum, Wichita, KS
September 03 2004 Frank Erwin Center, Austin, TX
September 04 2004 United Spirit Arena, Lubbock, TX
September 21 2004 Gund Arena, Cleveland, OH
September 22 2004 Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, PA
September 24 2004 Value City Arena, Columbus, OH
September 27 2004 Resch Center, Green Bay, WI
October 01 2004 The Palace, Detroit, MI
October 06 2004 Air Canada Center, Toronto, ON
October 07 2004 Corel Center, Ottawa, ON
October 14 2004 Pepsi Colisee, Quebec City, QC
October 15 2004 Pepsi Colisee, Quebec City, QC
October 17 2004 MCI Center, Washington, DC
October 19 2004 Wachovia Center, Philadelphia, PA
October 20 2004 Wachovia Center, Philadelphia, PA
October 22 2004 Continental Airlines Arena, E Rutherford, NJ










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  View entire thread: Guitar World's 100 worst guitar solos
Posted by Time_for_Deth on 10/07/04 @ 08:33 PM    Post subject: Re: Guitar World's 100 worst guitar solos

Yeah I hate guitar world now. Read Guitar One that magazine kicks the shit out of guitarworld! BUY THE MEGADETH ISSUE FOR DAVE MUSTAINE'S FIRST LESSON!

And a six or so page interview. And the tabs to Die Dead Enough.


If that doesn't satisfy you search for the "101 greatest guitar riffs of all time" they've got 101 excellent riffs, I agree with a lot of the riffs they have on there. For a bonus it has JP testing out some strings and showing off :P, and it has like 7 riffs from Ozzfest.


YEAH GREAT MAG YEAH!!

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  View entire thread: Tallica in Sabb Family Tree
Posted by mooseheadtrail on 12/08/04 @ 12:00 PM    Post subject: Tallica in Sabb Family Tree


Every fan knows that because of Robert Trujillo (and, of course, Jason Newsted), Metallica is now firmly a branch in the Black Sabbath family tree.  But if you think it ends there, well, as Rob Halford would say, you've got another thing coming.

Because of what can only be described as 'intensive interbreeding' between Black Sabbath and Deep Purple throughout the late 70's and early 80's, Metallica is linked, through Robert and Jason (and Dave Mustaine, too) to numerous other bands, including (but surely not limited to):

Judas Priest
Led Zeppelin
Iron Maiden
Frank Zappa
Whitesnake
Alice Cooper
Kiss
Van Halen
AC/DC
and of course Deep Purple and Black Sabbath.  Every band a major influence (though David Coverdale was more influential when in Purple than Whitesnake although, if you've got the Donnington 95 bootleg  ;D).

So you're probably wondering how I came by all that.  Well, I blame it on Quebec City.  I was listening to that awesome livemetallica.com download (for I was at both shows!!) and I just thought about Robert, and bands he'd been in.  From there, it hit me like a two-ton heavy thing (yeah, there's a link to Queensryche, too, and even Alice In Chains; you figure it out).  This guy's family tree is more extensive than I could have imagined, and I was shocked at how great it was.

It starts with either Sabbath or Purple.  We'll go with the heavier one first, so Sabbath it is.  Everything was fine in Sabbath until Ozzy left, that's when it all begins.  As you may know, Ronnie James Dio filled in as Ozzy's very capable replacement for two albums (three, if you‘re counting Live Evil).  Dio was the former singer of Rainbow, a band formed by Ritchie Blackmore.  Blackmore was the old guitarist of Deep Purple, so that's where the first, but far from final, link between these two metal ledgends starts.

Ian Gillan, the singer of Deep Purple, soon left Purple (and he would rejoin them two more times, once with Steve Morse, former Kansas guitarist, in case this family tree isn't extensive enough!).  After he left Purple, but before he replaced Dio in Black Sabbath for the Born Again LP (a GREATLY overlooked album, killer tunes, especially Disturbing The Priest, overlooked even by Sabbath fans, shame on them) Gillan for a time had his own solo band.  The guitar player in Gillan’s band was a guy named Janick Gers.

When Gillan broke up, Janick Gers soon found himself in another band, this one fronted by former Iron Maiden singer Paul Dianno.  As if that wasn't enough of a Maiden connection, years later, Janick Gers would not only play on Bruce Dickinson's Tattooed Millionaire album (classic) but also become a real member of Iron Maiden, where he remains to this day.

So . . .where was I?

Okay, back to Deep Purple for a minute.  When Ian Gillan left the band, David Coverdale came in, playing on such killer tunes as Burn and Stormbringer (and Mistreated, too, you may remember that riff from the Lars/Kirk solo from Binge+Purge).  Anyway, Coverdale soon left Purple and formed his own band, Whitesnake.  There were (still are) many revolving members in this band, but it included a few memorable names: Rudy Sarzo (bassist previously in Ozzy and Quiet Riot, a band in which Randy Rhoads once played), and Steve Vai (who had recently played in David Lee Roth's solo band—Roth obviously of Van Halen fame-and back before that, had been in Frank Zappa's band) and years later the lesser known Reb Beach (sp?) who had been the original guitarist in Winger, the bandleader of which had been the bassist for Alice Cooper.  Oh, and by the way, David Coverdale-between stints in Whitesnake-formed a short lived band with Jimmy Page, who, as you may know, was the guitar player in Led Zeppelin.  Jimmy Page, years before, after the demise of said Zeppelin, formed a band called The Firn, featuring Paul Rodgers, former singer of Bad Company, and Chris Slade, future drummer for AC/DC.

Take a deep breath . . . it gets worse :o

So meanwhile, the guy that started all of this, one Ozzy Ousbourne, had all kinds of folks in his band.  This included Jake E Lee, who played on what I personally view as Ozzy's best album The Ultimate Sin.  After the Ultimate Sin tour, Jake left (paving the way for Zakk Wylde).  Jake then formed a band called Badlands with Ray Gillan (no relation to Ian, though Ray was formerly the singer with Sabbath, though he recorded no music with them).  That first self-titled Badlands album is okay (Winter's Call is by far the best track).  The drummer in that band was Eric Singer, who later replaced the late Eric Carr in Kiss.  Of course, Mike Inez was also in Ozzy's band, and later in Alice In Chains.  Robert Trujillo later repalced him (coming from Suicidal and Infectious), and then joined Metallica.  In an odd twist, Jason Newsted took Robert's place in Ozzy's band, firmly cementing Metallica's direct connection to Sabbath, Purple and many others.

Wait!  I'm not done yet.  There's still Megadeth.  Marty Friedman was one of the guitarists in this band.  He had formerly been in Racer X.  The drummer of Racer X was Scott Travis, who went on to be the drummer (best they ever had) in Judas Priest on the Painkiller album (and Rob's solo band, Fight, as well).

Okay, that's it.  I'm done (and I fucken knew reading all those old Hit Parader's and Rip magazines would pay off one day!)  If this is all too much for you, well, do like I did - blame it on Quebec City (just kidding!) ;D ;D ;D


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  View entire thread: Dave Mustaine on Duck Dodgers
Posted by on 04/13/06 @ 08:49 PM    Post subject:

yeah, Dave Mustaine owns

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  View entire thread: Lars thanking Dave Mustaine
Posted by Metal_Head on 11/09/04 @ 09:18 AM    Post subject: Lars thanking Dave Mustaine

At the risk of starting yet another thread bashing Dave Mustaine (which I'm not trying to do), I thought I'd post this quote from Lars I just found in an interview from over 20 years ago, in 1984 (I found it on the MetClub site, and it is part of an article in the So What! book).

“As far as I’m concerned, Metallica really changed with the arrival of Kirk and Cliff. Incidentally, I’d like to say that Metallica bears no grudges against Dave Mustaine and that we thank him and acknowledge his contribution to early Metallica."

I think part of the problem is a lack of communication, and I really wish Dave could read at least this part of the book.

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  View entire thread: Dave Mustaine on Duck Dodgers
Posted by on 04/13/06 @ 10:38 PM    Post subject:

Dave Mustaine >> most other thrash guitarists
Duck Dodgers >>> everything else on Boomerang

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  View entire thread: My rant against MegafanKIMB
Posted by KingSomething on 12/06/04 @ 02:11 PM    Post subject: Re: My rant against MegafanKIMB

ya your right about one point. kicking out dave mustaine was money hungry. they knew that dave mustaine would make them no money so they kicked him out. bang on. and, my god, he wrote a whole ONE LINE in leper messiah!!  :o

and ya, that one line took them to legendary ways. NOT! ;D

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  View entire thread: Lars thanking Dave Mustaine
Posted by BTHTDB82 on 11/09/04 @ 01:11 PM    Post subject: Re: Lars thanking Dave Mustaine

Enter Sandman was the first riff Metallica moulded into a song for the Black Album. That riff was written by Kirk. It was not the first riff of Kirk's used on an album. Kirk wrote riffs for the previous albums also. Great point though about Metallica's fans not acknowledging Dave Mustaine.

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  View entire thread: Which Heavy Metal guitarist is better than Kirk???
Posted by metallipath on 12/09/04 @ 03:54 PM    Post subject: Re: Which Heavy Metal guitarist is better than Kir

Dave Mustaine and Marty Friedman are better than Kirk.


dave mustaine? hes amazing but his style is way different to kirks...

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  View entire thread: How to play the 4 Horsemen riff
Posted by on 04/11/06 @ 03:03 PM    Post subject:

Dave plays it with downstrokes? Are you sure? normally Dave alternates everything (pretty much).

i use alternate picking with palm muting. it sounds good to me...

Dave Mustaine would definately alt pick that riff.... on Mechanix anyway.

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  View entire thread: Metallica: Some Kind of Monster !
Posted by TheCreepingDeath on 07/15/04 @ 02:40 PM    Post subject: Metallica: Some Kind of Monster !

I know that this movie has not been released everywhere yet but being fortunate enough to live in NY where it was released first.. I feel obligated to review it and let everyone know my feelings about this outstanding demonstration of hardships in the greatest heavy metal band of all time's life.

As this movie begins you hear the familiar riff of "Seek and Destroy" and witness Metallica playing a show with Jason Newstead, before all events took place. Soon after it shows a news clip announcing Jason's departure from the band, he states that James was overprotective of him and didn't want him pursuing Echobrain (side project) as much as Jason wanted to. Trying not to let this news discourage them from producing a new album - they enter a recording studio where producer Bob Rock takes over bass duties.

Lars and Kirk seem very excited about this record as they constantly work to come up with great material, but James seems out of the loop, depressed, and not eager to finish the record. It almost looks like he feels forced. After an argument with Lars, James storms out of the room vanishing with the announcement soon after that he decided to go to therapy for alcoholism and other unreleased addictions.

Various clips of old shows enter the screen where James is constantly drinking - that might have been exciting back then but now he has a family and responsibilites and I'm glad he finally realized he had to get back on track with his life. As Metallica looks like it is falling apart, Jason Newstead's band Echobrain looks better than ever as Lars and Bob Rock go to their show and realize Jason wasn't really given as much creative freedom in Metallica as he now has.

With the guidance of a Dr.Phil (not the Dr.Phil) Lars, Kirk, and Bob Rock discuss their feelings about everything going on around them as difficult as it may seem. Kirk expresses that he is very uncomfortable not knowing when James will return.

Nearly a year passes before James returns a new man ; he makes a truly inspiring statement about how predictable his life was with drinking and how much more exciting it is now that he is clean and can respond to everything around him more efficiently. The making of the record is resumed and a new method is taken. Instead of everyone dealing with their own instrument and James dealing with the lyrics, every band member (and Bob Rock) contributes to every part of every song. You can't help singing along to these songs from St. Anger as they unravel and gain a new appreciation.

The search for a new bass player is a very interesting part but after seeing Rob Trujillo's full audition I feel completely confident that he was the one meant to be in Metallica- hopefully he will remain with them for a long time to come.

I could go on forever but I will let you judge the rest, when this movie comes near you SEE IT. It is inspiring, funny, and touching.

Interesting scenes also include: Ulrich's meeting with Dave Mustaine, the naming of the record, the making of the music video St. Anger in a prison.

METALLICA FOREVER.



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  View entire thread: Lars thanking Dave Mustaine
Posted by Dime on 11/11/04 @ 04:57 AM    Post subject: Re: Lars thanking Dave Mustaine

hey Dave Mustaine has every right to be pissed off.. Lars has been such a Dick in regards to Dave not only back then but also over the past 20 years too, so Dave i agree with you and you have every right to hate him..because as we all no Lars can be a major dick at times..especially when it comes to Dave..

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  View entire thread: Info about SKOM deleted scenes on DVD!!!
Posted by Metal_Head on 11/30/04 @ 05:34 PM    Post subject: Info about SKOM deleted scenes on DVD!!!

This was posted on the official Met Club boards, and I thought others may be interested. There are some fucken cool scenes here, and heaps of shit I was wishing had been put in the movie.

Credit is given to OutlawTorn81, a cool clubber from Met Club for finding this cool shit.


28 Additional Scenes (77.54 total) (5 with Commentary - 24.53 of total)

Photo Shoot with Kirk (1.17)
Lars with his Newborn Son (1.52)
Metallica, Swizz Beatz & Ja Rule (10.00)
Lars and Kirk Webchat (2.34)
Management Discusses Metallica's Future (4.12)
Should the Filming Continue? (3.34)
James Talks About Growing Up (4.13)
Surprise Gig at Kimo's (4.59)
Metallica Honours Aerosmith at MTV's Icon (2.38)
Take the Metalheads Bowling (0.23)
Bass Lines for "My World" (3.01)
More Work on "My World" (3.31)
Kirk's Birthday (3.41)
Tough Riff (3.14)
"All Within My Hands" Vocals (1.44)
Castor Doesn't Want Headphones (0.37)
Bob is Bitter (0.47)
Lars Stews in his Anger (0.45)
Lars and James Have Made Progress (3.15)
Kirk Goes to Traffic School (3.07)
James' New Artwork (0.52)
Album Packaging (2.08)
Hammering It Out (1.47)
Sounds Good (3.46)
Rob Goes Snowboarding (2.54)
Kirk's Father-in-Law Plays with Rob (1.43)
A Lot of Work to Be Done (1.38)
"Frantic" at the Fillmore (7.55)
Festivals & Premieres (46.32 total)

Sundance Q&A (10.45)
Sundance Press Conference (14.46)
San Francisco International Film Festival (10.45)
New York Premiere (6.05)
Metallica Club Screening (4.11)
This Monster Lives (13 Parts - 61.37 total) (5 with Commentary - 28.07 total)

Predictions about the album (1.39)
Being Original (2.13)
Lars and Dave Mustaine, alternate cut (5.30)
"F$%@! Meeting" extension (6.37)
LA Raiders tailgate show
Raiders Fallout (4.39)
The New Face of Metal? (2.11)
Touring Confusion (3.07)
Dee Dee's Legacy (4.11)
Talking about bass players with Pepper (2.47)
Rob's First Interview (3.27)
Lars visits his childhood home (3.37)
The Oslo Interviews (11.42)
Music Video (4.53)
Filmmaker Bios (menu text pages) - Joe Berlinger (3 pages) - Bruce Sinofsky (3 pages)


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  View entire thread: My rant against MegafanKIMB
Posted by KingSomething on 12/06/04 @ 01:57 PM    Post subject: Re: My rant against MegafanKIMB

FUCK YOU DAVE MUSTAINE IS JUST A COCK HUNGRY FAGGOT ( THATS ABOUT ASS UNTRUE AS YOUR ARGUMENT)

what do you mean?

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  View entire thread: best guitarist
Posted by dansj882 on 10/28/04 @ 05:24 PM    Post subject: Re: best guitarist

just kidding!!!


nuno bettencourt, kirk hammett, joe satriani, steve vai, jeff beck, james hetfield, dave mustaine, eric johnson, theres loads!

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  View entire thread: How to play the 4 Horsemen riff
Posted by on 04/10/06 @ 05:01 PM    Post subject: How to play the 4 Horsemen riff

Any guitar players here that can play the 4 Horsemen, how do you play the riff after the first 4 power chords? I just use alternate picking and keep my one finger fretting the A string at the 5th fret. I see a lot of guitar players playing it all downstrokes and they seem to use a pull-off. This is the way I've seen James play it, Dave Mustaine play it, Kirk too. But I can never get it to sound right. Sometimes it sounds ok with alternate picking, but I'd like to be able to play it right. Thanks for your help guys

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  View entire thread: MEGAFANKIMB is as bent as christmas
Posted by KingSomething on 12/06/04 @ 07:04 AM    Post subject: MEGAFANKIMB is as bent as christmas

Fuck you Megafan, your a spastic. still cannot believe there is no rant section about this fucker.

please ban this dave mustaine-pervert.

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  View entire thread: Jay-Z rips Metallica again.
Posted by +steve_burton+ on 11/14/04 @ 09:23 AM    Post subject: Re: Jay-Z rips Metallica again.

 R Kelly and Usher???  Its not R Kelly and Usher you retard.  Its R Kelly and Jay Z, if its not Jay Z its another rapper who has been out for along time who has achieved great success.  Usher isnt even a fucking rapper, neither is R Kelly, they are singers.  Plus, they werent doing it on purpose too copy Van Halen, they were doing it cos' they were comvinging two considered major influences in the rap world and the hip hop world, R Kelly and Jay Z, two huge successes and combining their different music together.  So thats basically the meaning for ''The ebst of both worlds''.  It doesnt take any creativity too wrap ???  It didnt take any creativity too write the fucking St ANger album, look at Tupac Shakur, he wrote songs about dilemas the World is facing, struggling, street life.  How his lyrics werent creative is a mystery too me.  Metallica are the greatest but id rather listen too a fucking rapper than listen too the black album, laod, reload, st anger.  They arent the true metallica man, just commercialization.  Stop botching aboutthis shit dudes.  Every artist be it Metal or Rap, uses other peoples shit.  Alot of Metlalica fans cuss Dave Mustaine for btiching about Metallica using his shit, o stop bitchign about another artist using Metallicas shit.

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  View entire thread: My rant against MegafanKIMB
Posted by BTHTDB82 on 12/05/04 @ 11:48 PM    Post subject: Re: My rant against MegafanKIMB




oh no ive never heard the mechanix even though killing is my business is my fav album i got!  ive read the liners and mustaine said that he requested everysong on that album that has his name as one of the writers to be kept off of KEM. he wrote all the lyrics for almost all of the songs his name appears on. ive read this many times from many sources. and to answer your question, a spider riff is mustaines specialty.  its when a power chord is played and the count in a 1+2+3+4+, the first beat gets the full powerchord and the +2+3+4+ is palm muted while playing only the lowest note. 16th notes are similar. perfect example is ride the lightning, and notice how mustaine wrote it.
A spider chord is an open power chord followed by palm mutted 8ths or 16ths of the root? That's got to be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard in my entire life. I played shit like that my second week of playing guitar. I seriously doubt that's what a spider chord really is and I seriously doubt he was the first one to ever play one. Surely in the centuries of music before him there was someone somewhere that played an E5 followed by 8ths or 16ths of E on the sixth string. Did Dave Mustaine also invent wannabe buttfucking fanatics like yourself?  

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  View entire thread: Hard Rock Survey 2.0
Posted by on 04/21/06 @ 12:03 AM    Post subject:

Greatest Guitarists
1.Dave Mustaine
2.Kirk Hammett
3.James Hetfield
4.Corey Beauleau
5.Matt Heafy
6.Yngwie Malmsteen
7.Jon Donais
8.Randy Rhoads
9.Dimebag Darrel
10.Marty Freidman

Greatest Bassists
1.Cliff Burton
2.David Ellefson
3.Steve Harris
4.Geezer Butler
5.Tom Araya

Greatest Drummers
1.Lars Ulrich
2.Dave Lombardo
3.Gar Samuelson
4.Joey Jordison
5.Travis Smith

Greatest Vocalists
1.James Hetfield
2.Dave Mustaine
3.Bruce Dickinson
4.Rob Halford
5.Matt Heafy
6.David Wayne(early Metal Church)
7.Paul Baloff(early Exodus)
8.Tom Araya
9.Phil Anselmo

Greatest Hard Rock Song
1.Master of Puppets
2.Ride the Lightning
3.Wake Up Dead
4.Holy Wars...the punishment due
5.Gunshot to the head of trepidation
6.Lightning to the Nations
7.Bonded by Blood
8.Paranoid
9.Seasons in the Abyss
10.Metal Thrashing Mad
11.Cemetery Gates
12.Walk
13.A Fire in Babylon
14.Anarchy in the UK
15.Gods of Wrath

Greatest Ballads
1.Fade to Black
2.Sanitarium
3.A Tout Le Monde
4.Cemetery Gates
5.Hallowed Be thy Name
6.Children of the Damned
7.Gods of Wrath (Metal Church)

Greatest Covertunes
1.Am I Evil
2.Blitzkreig
3.No More Mr. Nice Guy
4.The Small Hours
5.Anarchy in the UK

Greatest Albums (in no order)
Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets
Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?
Rust in Peace
Bonded by Blood
Seasons in the Abyss
Fistful of Metal
Diary of a Madman
Metal Church
Ascendancy
War Within
Roadrunner United
Cowboys from Hell
Vulgar Display of Power
Powerslave

Best Bands of Hard Rock
1.Metallica
2.Megadeth
3.Trivium
4.Pantera
5.Iron Maiden

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  View entire thread: Hard Rock Survey 2.0
Posted by on 04/14/06 @ 02:44 PM    Post subject:

I'm assuming order has no meaning as to which ones I like better...

GREATEST GUITARISTS
Dave Mustaine
John Petrucci
Chuck Schuldiner
James Hetfield
Alexi Laiho
Jon Schaffer
Marty Friedman
Steve Vai
Rhandy Rhoads

GREATEST BASSISTS
Justin Chancellor
Steve Harris
Cliff Burton
Martin Mendez
Steve DiGiorgio
John Myung
David Ellefson

GREATEST DRUMMERS
Richard Christy
Neil Purt
Danny Carey
Tomas Haake
Mike Portnoy
Martin Lopez

GREATEST VOCALISTS
Maynard James Keenan
Mikael Akerfeldt
Matt Barlow
James Hetfield
Tim Owens
Rob Halford
Devon Graves
Dave Mustaine

GREATEST HARD ROCK SONG
Dante's Inferno (Iced Earth)
Third Eye (Tool)
Pushit (Tool)
Reflection (Tool)
Outlaw Torn (Metallica)
Hallow Be Thy Name (Iron Maiden)
To Bid You Farewell (Opeth)
Holy Wars (Megadeth)
Master of Puppets (Metallica)
Blind Faith (Dream Theater)
Zombie Ritual (Death)
Addicted To Chaos (Megadeth)
Painkiller (Judas Priest)
Everytime I Die (Children of Bodom)
The Noose (A Perfect Circle)
Frozen (Madonna)
that is a very LOOSE list

GREATEST BALLAD
Hollow Years (Dream Theater)
Fade To Black (Metallica)
A Tout Le Monde (Megadeth)
Time To Say Goodbye (Andrea Bocielli)
To Bid You Farewell (Opeth)
A Question of Heaven (Iced Earth)
Melancholy (Holy Martyr) (Iced Earth)
H (Tool)
again very loose

GREATEST COVERTUNE
No Quarter (Tool)
Astronomy (Metallica)
Turn The Page (Metallica)
Painkiller (Death)
Passive (A Perfect Circle)
Hallow Be Thy Name (Iced Earth)

GREATEST ENTERTAINERS
Bruce Dickinson
James Hetfield
Freddie Mercury

GREATEST ALBUM
Aenima (Tool)
Lateralus (Tool)
Master of Puppets (Metallica)
Rust In Peace (Megadeth)
Blackwater Park (Opeth)
Halo Soundtrack (Martin O'donnel)
Follow The Reaper (Children of Bodom)
The Sound of Perseverance (Death)
Horror Show (Iced Earth)
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (Iron Maiden)
Awake (Dream Theater)
Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)
The Human Equation (Ayeron)
S&M (Metallica)
The Mantle (Agalloch)
I'll never be satisfied with my lists

GREATEST LIVE ALBUMS
Alive In Athens (Iced Earth)
Salival (Tool)
S&M (Metallica)

GREATEST BAND OF HARD ROCK
Metallica
Megadeth
Pink Floyd
Death
Iced Earth
Iron Maiden
Opeth
A Perfect Circle
Dream Theater
Meshuggah
Pearl Jam
Agalloch

but no one comes even close to TOOL

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  View entire thread: Which Heavy Metal guitarist is better than Kirk???
Posted by Vic_Rattlehead on 12/09/04 @ 03:37 PM    Post subject: Re: Which Heavy Metal guitarist is better than Kir

Dave Mustaine and Marty Friedman are better than Kirk.

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  View entire thread: Which Heavy Metal guitarist is better than Kirk???
Posted by moto_psycho on 11/30/04 @ 01:35 AM    Post subject: Re: Which Heavy Metal guitarist is better than Kir

i think Dave Mustaine , Chris Poland , oh and Me

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  View entire thread: MEGAFANKIMB is as bent as christmas
Posted by The.4th.Horseman on 12/07/04 @ 07:58 PM    Post subject: Re: MEGAFANKIMB is as bent as christmas

A)megafan just shut the fuck up. your making yourself look like a jackass. Dave helped with alot of lyrics. OK. Dave helped with alot of songs. OK. what else do you want.

B)if you didn't realize it before this site is for metallica fans. so if your going to talk shit about them go to a megadeth forum.

C)I like megadeth beside from a fact that Dave Mustaine is a dick. not everybody here is against megadeth, they're just fucking sick of you.

D)who's for pie?

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  View entire thread: spider chord
Posted by BTHTDB82 on 10/26/04 @ 10:45 PM    Post subject: Re: spider chord

Holy shit!!! You read my mind today. I swear I was thinking earlier today that when I got home from work I was going to ask this same question!!!!!!! That's kinda weird, but cool. I'm wondering what a spider chord is too and how Dave Mustaine supposedly invented it.

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  View entire thread: Theory on fade to black
Posted by BTHTDB82 on 11/11/04 @ 08:48 PM    Post subject: Re: Theory on fade to black

I think there's a lot of things about Metallica that are shrouded in mystery including Dave Mustaine getting kicked out of the band. Metallica is a very private band. I only wish I could have been in it from the beginning to know about everything that went on.

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  View entire thread: Hard Rock Survey 2.0
Posted by on 04/24/06 @ 03:13 PM    Post subject:

Bad Seed, I fucking love you

Greatest Guitarists (maximum 10)
1.Dave Mustaine (MEGADETH)
2.Dimebag (PANTERA/DAMAGEPLAN)
3.Jimmy Page (LED ZEPELLIN)
4.East Bay Ray (DEAD KENNEDYS)
5.Chuck Schuldiner (DEATH)
6.Marty Friedman (MEGADETH)
7.James Hetfield (METALLICA)
8.Tom Morello (RATM/AUDIOSLAVE)
9.Dino Cazares (FEAR FACTORY)
10.Matthew Bellamy (MUSE)

Greatest Bassists (maximum 10)

I really don't know much of bassists, so I'll leave this alone.

Greatest Drummers (maximum 10)
1.RAYMOND HERRERA (FEAR FACTORY)
2.Dave Lombardo (SLAYER)
3.Paul Bostaph (ex-SLAYER)
4.Mike Portnoy (DREAM THEATER)
5.Keith Moon (WHO)
6.Nick Menza (ex-MEGADETH)
7.Matt Cameron (SOUNDGARDEN)
8.Danny Carey (TOOL)
9.Lars (METALLICA)
10.Meg White (THE WHITE STRIPES) (beauty in simplicity)

Greatest Vocalist (maximum 15)
1.JELLO FUCKING BIAFRA (DEAD KENNEDYS)
2.Johnny Rotten (SEX PISTOLS)
3.Freddie Mercury (QUEEN)
4.Matthew Bellamy (MUSE)
5.Jaymz (METALLICA)
6.Zack De La Rocha (RATM)
7.Burton C. Bell (FEAR FACTORY)
8.Chris Cornell (AUDIOSLAVE)
9.Max Cavalera (SOULFLY)
10.Brian Molko (PLACEBO)
11.Maynard (TOOL)
12.Dave Mustaine (MEGADETH)
13.Chino Moreno (DEFTONES)
14.Phil Anselmo (PANTERA)
15.Jack White (THE WHITE STRIPES)

Greatest Hard Rock Song (maximum 15)
1.DEAD KENNEDYS - Soup Is Good Food
2.BLACK SABBATH - Iron Man
3.METALLICA - Blackened
4.DEAD KENNEDYS - Chicken Farm
5.THE SEX PISTOLS - Submission
6.MEGADETH - My Last Words
7.FEAR FACTORY - Replica
8.FEAR FACTORY - Slave Labor
9.FEAR FACTORY - Zero Signal
10.PANTERA - 5 Minutes Alone
11.MUSE - Bliss
12.MUSE - Dark Shines
13.RATM - Sleep Now In The Fire (gets me pumped up everytime)
14.DEFTONES - Digital Bath
15.SOULFLY - Bring It

Greatest Ballad (maximum 10)
1.METALLICA - Fade To Black
2.LED ZEPELLIN - Stairway To Heaven
3.MEGADETH - A Tout Le Monde
3.METALLICA - The Unforgiven
4.METALLICA - The Unforgiven II
5.PANTERA - Cemetary Gates
6.SOUNDGARDEN - Black Hole Sun
7.ALICE IN CHAINS - Rooster
8.FEAR FACTORY - Bite The Hand That Bleeds
9.GREEN DAY - Wake Me Up When September Ends (fuck you, it's an awesome song)
10.METALLICA - Sanitarium

Greatest Covertune (maximum 10)
1.MEGADETH - Problems
2.MEGADETH - Anarchy In The UK
3.FEAR FACTORY & DANZIG - Enter Sandman
4.RATM - How Could I Just Kill A Man
5.DEAD KENNEDYS - I Fought The Law
6.DEAD KENNEDYS - Viva Las Vegas
7.CHILDREN OF BODOM - Oops I Did It Again
8.CHILDREN OF BODOM - The Final Countdown
9.FEAR FACTORY - School
10.METALLICA - Iron Man

Greatest Entertainers (maximum 5)
1.JELLO BIAFRA
2.Freddie Mercury
3.Johnny Rotten
4.J-Het
5.every member of ROCKBITCH (search for pics)

Greatest Album (maximum 15)
1.DEAD KENNEDYS - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
2.DEAD KENNEDYS - In God We Trust Inc
3.DEAD KENNEDYS - FRANKENCHRIST!!
4.THE SEX PISTOLS - Nevermind The Bollocks...Here's The Sex Pistols!
5.METALLICA - ...And Justice For All
6.METALLICA - Master Of Puppets
7.METALLICA - Ride The Lightning
8.MEGADETH - Peace Sells
9.MEGADETH - Killing Is My Business
10.MEGADETH - Rust In Peace
11.MUSE - Origin Of Symmetry
12.FEAR FACTORY - Demanufacture
13.RATM - The Battle Of LA
14.PANTERA - Cowboys From Hell
15.PLACEBO - Black Market Music or Without You I'm Nothing
extra 16. QUEEN - Innuendo

Greatest Live Album (maximum 10)

1.QUEEN - Live At Wembley
2.DEAD KENNEDYS - Mutiny At Bay
3.METALLICA - S&M

Greatest Band of Hard Rock (maximum 20)
1.METALLICA
2.DEAD KENNEDYS
3.MEGADETH
4.MUSE
5.THE SEX PISTOLS
6.FEAR FACTORY
7.PANTERA
8.SLAYER
9.SOUNDGARDEN
10.TOOL
11.THE CLASH
12.SOULFLY
13.SEPULTURA
14.PEARL JAM
15.PLACEBO
16.THE WHITE STRIPES
17.THE DOORS
18.RAGE AGAINST THA FUCKEN MACHINE (how could I forget?)
19.NINE INCH NAILS
20.QUEEN

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  View entire thread: Question about Kill Em All
Posted by HandicapSkydiver on 11/24/04 @ 03:05 PM    Post subject: Re: Question about Kill Em All

ive never heard that motorhead wrote there songs but i have heard that part about dave mustaine

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Posted by metallifreak27 on 01/13/05 @ 01:00 AM    Post subject: Re: Question about Kill Em All

by now everyone should know that YES dave mustaine wrote the KEA solos and had a little influence on RTL

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  View entire thread: Bands Who Were Influenced BY Metallica
Posted by DarkFlare on 12/07/04 @ 11:34 AM    Post subject: Re: Bands Who Were Influenced BY Metallica

New wave of British heavy Metal was an era roughly bout 79-83 and Lars basically would hunt down anything to do with NWOBHM. Examples of NWOBHM bands are Diamond head, Mercyful fate Def leppard and Iron maiden are even classed in NWOBHM. Oh and I'd say Dave Mustaine was influced by Tallica as he still wishes he was in the band! lol

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  View entire thread: Which Heavy Metal guitarist is better than Kirk???
Posted by Dime on 11/25/04 @ 07:20 AM    Post subject: Re: Which Heavy Metal guitarist is better than Kir

Dave Mustaine is as good if not better.. Kirk is still my Favourite guitar player tho.. Slash is great to.. i really like guitar's that can play a varity of music from really fast speed metal to slower stuff like Fade to black etc. and Kirk's got all that.. ::)

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Posted by SosQ on 01/01/05 @ 09:08 AM    Post subject: Re: Question about Kill Em All

The motorhead part is bull crap but mustaines solo thing is true. but dave mustaine exaggerate things. he was one member of the band, and hole band was making those songs.
mustaine is looser. >:(

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  View entire thread: funny vocals
Posted by on 04/08/06 @ 04:08 PM    Post subject:

Dave Mustaine when singing live...funnyass shit right there

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  View entire thread: funny vocals
Posted by on 04/08/06 @ 01:11 PM    Post subject:

Dave Mustaine sings funny. But he's also very metal.

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  View entire thread: Your favourite member and why???
Posted by Metallica_is_GOD on 11/27/04 @ 04:43 PM    Post subject: Re: Your favourite member and why???

Dave Mustaine... yeah.. I know, hes in the other band but u cant deny his writing ability on "Kill 'em All". Plus have u seen em live "back in the day"? He was awesome.. him and Cliff practically stole the show from James.. cause back then Jaymz just stood there and sing the songs, but it was Dave who would get the crowd goin.

Cheerz!!!

PS... the st. anger solos are comin... 4 DAYS


OFFTOPIC: what did you mean by st. anger solo's are coming?
Favorite member: Kirk
Favorite album :...And Justice for All
Favorite song: Dyers Eve

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